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Hello everyone again....Its Jutboy here.

Sorry, I wanted to reply but my username got taken away (Reason: Troll???)...but I keep reading and so many people took the time to write I figured I create another account to at least try to write back. To admin: Im not sure what I did wrong (what is trolling?), could you please make it more clear so I don't do it again) I really would like to converse a little and think its not write that you should cut me off from writing back!

Ok..ok...to start off with - my spelling....well I rushed the letter, Im sorry....I think its kind of silly to attack me on that point when there are so many huge issues to discuss but whatever....

Some one asked about me (Dog Gone), Im a 21 year old working at a mental hospital currently holding a bachelors in psychology. I live in CT

To the comment that we liberals/conservatives can't ever have a discussion (AQGeiger)- I think thats silly, we are just people and I think all people want the same thing, we just go about getting it different ways.

I order of posting for replys

fullchroma: I was refering to posts like the first one

MJY1288: I don't think it can be said that simply becuase I don't know a liberal that doesn't get pissed about lazy people that sit around and spend our tax money.....since this address a lot I would like to say that I support letting people have their tax money. I don't understand why we have to cut funding for aid for needy people (and I understand that some people are abusing the system but I would say most actually need help) and giving tax cuts to billionires....I don't understand why republicians support a system so much hurts the poor and supports the rich.

bitt : I pay my taxs like everyone else and Im mostly upset that it all goes towards military and not towards programs I support...When I lived in Australia I had to pay 48% so I do know what its like

McGavin999: Thank you for writing to me like an intelligent person...I completly support your premise on fishing but I don't understand how welfare was so destructive.....it might have been abused but it must have helped some people....when I think of destructive I think of enviromental laws being dismantled, Reagon attacking Guatamala ect.

Baynative:Thank you for the long post...

Abortion: I don't support killing life AT ALL - but I think that more effort should be spent on supporting that life once it is born...I mean if having a kid ruins the mothers life and both the child + mom live in horrible conditions I can't justify it

immigration: I don't know much about it....I do know that we were all immigrants once though

Discrimination: I think its silly to try to address this by legislation and I think in general you have to admit thatliberals are more tolerant than republicians.

Enviroment: Who got their land taken away? Why are you stressing about an extra lane to support car pooling...why don't you worry about the goverment allowing business to release more toxic chemical (1 in 5 women of bearing age have unsafe levels of mercery), or allow the stripping of our natural resources

Gays:Their problem? Sounds like you don't except that they are the way they are...its like asking blacks to get over their problem

Ethyl: I think some people are put in a situation that they need help to start off and its hard to understand that if you started off in a pretty good place

deaconjim:I aggree with you 100%

more to come.....

Good God there really isn't any hope for you. LOL (By the way, you say you believe in God, yet you don't capitalize His Name. Most people who are truly dedicated to their Jewish/Christian faith have enough respect for God to capitalize His Name....just things that make you go "hmmm", you know?)

But there really isn't any hope for you. I know, because I have a friend JUST like you. I asked him why he thought taxes were a good idea, and he had the same thoughts as you: We should want to help people, unlike you Republicans who only want to keep your money.

You see my deluded friend, there really isn't any hope for you if you continue to believe that supporting government programs ever solves ANY PROBLEM! That's the KEY difference between conservatives and liberals. Until you realize that, you will forever go through life never understanding the difference and indeed, never understanding what the real problem with our society is today.

You have been brainwashed into believing that "rich is bad" and "poor is good", therefore you should never complain when the government wants more and more of your money. I would challenge you to do one thing before you leave here (and I suspect you will be leaving, either of your own volition, or with the help of our kindly staff), think about THIS:

NAME ONE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT HAS HAD MORE SUCCESS THAN FAILURE, JUST ONE!

Think about that one, REALLY think about it, with an open mind and a desire for the truth, and you MIGHT be on your way out of your deluded state.

Good luck.

Since you appear to be genuine rather than just another Democrat disruptor, I will address your remarks respectfully.

I am assuming that although you consider yourself a liberal at this point you are uneasy with this position . Most liberals just paint horns on Conservatives and demonize them and are completely convicted in their belief in the correctness of their viewpoint.

You are a victim of your youth and your liberal education.

Most peoples perspective is dependent on their own experience and most people do not begin to pay attention to anything outside of their family till sometime around age 12. Your perspective only goes back to 1995. Your experience only encompasses 4.3% of the life of the Republic of the United States. You were born during the Regan administration and have no real idea of what came before.

How do I know you have had a liberal indoctrination. There was a revolution in education that started in the 1970's. It was quiet at first, limited to the liberal arts but with the near social revolution in society at large, academia capitulated. The Universities fell first and the schools of education were among the first to fall. Teachers are indoctrinated with the America is wrong and Capitalism is wrong venom and they went forth and indoctrinated the children that they were entrusted with.

Standard of Education in the US has been falling for 2 generations. It's not a question of money. It is a question of the quality of teachers and the politically motivated desire to spread the hate the US into every subject. Fact: Schools of Education are populated by college entrants with the lowest Sat scores and have the lowest GPA's of any group of majors . Most teachers do not know their subject matter because their degree is in Education. Prior to the 1970's not all but many Math majors taught math, Biology majors taught Biology, on and on. We are speaking of teachers for K-12.

Most of us here at Free Republic have a perspective that reaches much farther back than yours. Many of us came in their maturity during the Regan years, or during the Vietnam years , during the early Cold War and Korea and a shrinking number of us came into maturity during WWII. We know a United States radically different from you.

You have never known a time that abortion was not legal, when most homes had a computer, when a cell phone wasn't standard, when central air in the home wasn't the norm, when every home had multiple cars, when microwave ovens weren't standard, when God and religion hadn't been stripped from the public square but was a central feature in the vast majority of both homes and schools and government offices.

Having a victim mentality used to be a shameful thing, now it is an industry on the left.

As a psychology major and a worker in mental health you should know that buying into a victim mentality is the most dis empowering world view that anyone can embrace.
Endorsing victim status keeps you mired in misery, prevents you from moving forward and leaves you helpless to improve your own position. Much of mental health and I am not speaking of people who have major mental illness, is involved in helping people move through trauma and loss to reclaim their power over their lives.

Liberalism is entirely dependent on perpetuating victim status in as many people as possible. All of the liberal policies have worked out to be political malpractice. If in your field you sought to strip people of their ability to cope, their ability to stand up for themselves, their ability to control their own fate and moved them to a state of worse functioning rather than improved functioning you would be sued and held in contempt by your peers.

Liberal politicians have done just this. Johnson's Great Society welfare system was supposed to end poverty , instead it broke the back of minority family's. Since the beginning of time a 2 parent family with a man and a woman working together for the welfare of their children was the foundation of all successful society's. The Great Society measures made a cash payout to dependent children as long as there wasn't an adult male in the family to work and support them.

The result of this measure was adult men got moved out. Women rather than marry a man and raise a family with him alone started having family's with multiple men, many children and encouraging their dependent daughters to start having children as early as possible so they would be eligible for the welfare checks. Unwed births rather than being a rarity move to 76% of black babies being born to unwed mothers. Mothers that have babies at 13-14 have nothing to give to their children because they are children themselves. They were dropouts therefore do not value education and do not impart a love of learning to their children. Working hard became a measure of acting white and intelligent black children that wanted to learn faced daily beatings by their peers.

Children were essentially raised in the streets and the gang phenomena became dominant in whole neighborhoods. Crime and drugs is viewed as legitimate employment. Look at the hip hop culture. Gangsta rap is the embodiment of their highest aspirations. Liberals look at the hight rate of incarceration of young black males and see racism. Conservatives look at it and see the natural consequence of kids being raised by kids with no father in the home, no education and no adult male guidance.

The primary difference between liberal and conservative is liberals reason from emotion and never weigh outcome, Conservatives reason from logic and experience and always weigh outcome.

This discussion would and has filled multiple books. I have just provided a thumbnail sketch virtually every sentence you brought up would be the subject of a book. If you are serious I would recommend reading. Start out with Thomas Sowell for economics, Disousa for a historical perspective, Victor David Hanson for some hard history. There are many others.

Frankly I would be enraged if I thought virtually everything that I had been taught was erroneous. If you truly have an inquisitive mind I wish you very well on your journey. If you are a true believer in liberalism, I wish you well because you have a lifetime of misery ahead of you.