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Vanity: The silly way we reward our Generals
Tha San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 6, 2005

Posted on 02/06/2005 9:00:32 AM PST by ILL

Mattis told about 200 people at the San Diego Convention Center: "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you, I like brawling."

Do we mean to say they shouldn't use all the goodies they were given in order to kill the enemy? Hell no. They should kill as many of the enemy as possible. A verbal "faux pas" is not something that these generals are schooled at. If they were schooled as politicians they would have given us some sort of a hogwash story how heartbreaking it was to kill an Iraqi unit that set their convoy with road blasts. Sorry, but I just don't buy it. Rush to judgment has traditionally been easy for all of us and moralizing has never won a war. OK, he was a little too open or clumsy but he's not paid to be a speaker, his job was to command a unit in combat. If he's ever judged for anything that should be the scope of our interests. It is unacceptable to train these men to kill and later hold them liable for having killed (who cares if they enjoyed it or not). Such similar stupidities have befallen some other great American generals like William Tecumseh Sherman, George S Patton Jr. and Dwight D. Eisenhower. During their tenure they were severly criticized but after a few decades have elapsed we glorified their exploits. Let's not be that hasty and that hypocritical. We trained these people to do exactly what the General said he was doing, and we equipped them with plenty of toys to accomplish that goal (kill as many of the enemy as possible).

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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD

. "A verbal "faux pas" is not something that these generals are schooled at. If they were schooled as politicians they would have given us some sort of a hogwash story how heartbreaking it was to kill an Iraqi unit that set their convoy with road blasts"

God bless those who go into harms way to fight for our country.


81 posted on 02/06/2005 10:11:41 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: b4its2late

82 posted on 02/06/2005 10:13:06 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: em2vn

That would put a spur in the craw of the MSM wouldn't it?


83 posted on 02/06/2005 10:13:20 AM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: JCRoberts

okay...thanks for keeping me straight!


84 posted on 02/06/2005 10:14:20 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: ExtremeUnction

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. ;-)


85 posted on 02/06/2005 10:15:03 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD
Dr. Pavlovich, you'd best drop back in and defend yourself here. Hig-and-run posts by those who have just signed up are generally viewed with, um, suspicion. There is much speculation on this thread as to your status.
86 posted on 02/06/2005 10:15:24 AM PST by .38sw
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To: shubi
Please read Posts 58 and 62. Regardless of support in this instance, the name of the poster represents something, and that something is out of line with FR.

(And yes, I went to public skool. Thanx four yore obsirvayshun.)

87 posted on 02/06/2005 10:16:15 AM PST by JCRoberts
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To: SolidRedState

What are they?


88 posted on 02/06/2005 10:17:51 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: JCRoberts
Sorry, but anyone using this name as a post name may echo the sentiment that our President's credibility is beyond reproach. Probably not one of us.

Gee, think maybe it's the guy's real name? Many freepers share the sentiment that Bush's credibility is beyond reproach. So what? You've been here, what, two weeks? And you're already deciding who is and isn't "one of us"? Give it a rest please.

89 posted on 02/06/2005 10:19:17 AM PST by Sandy
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1337257/posts
Lt. Gen. PC: Touchy-feely infiltrates the Marines
The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | February 6, 2005 | Editorial



snip

If you didn’t go too deep into some of the news stories,
you might assume General Mattis was some kind of homicidal nutcase. Take (please) this oh-so-objective lede from the Associated Press:


Washington – A decorated Marine Corps general said, "It’s fun to shoot some people" and poked fun at the manhood of Afghans as he described the wars U.S. troops are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It takes 21 paragraphs before this part of the general’s letter to the troops being deployed to Iraq is quoted:


"The enemy will try to manipulate you into hating all Iraqis. Do not allow the enemy that victory. With strong discipline, solid faith, unwavering alertness, and undiminished chivalry to the innocent, we will carry out this mission."
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90 posted on 02/06/2005 10:20:59 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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91 posted on 02/06/2005 10:21:47 AM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD

I saw him in a press conference the other day making these remarks. Sorry - I thought he was AWESOME!

This is a guy who will never suffer Post Traumatic Stress - becuase he knows he's killing the bad guys and he knows why.


92 posted on 02/06/2005 10:24:28 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry)
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To: b4its2late

I have no graphic to respond with, so I'll just applaud.


93 posted on 02/06/2005 10:25:01 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Sandy

Oh, I'm sorry. Does one need to be signed up for a certain period of time before they can smell a rat? And I don't know whether it's the guys real name or not. Do you? Because it's really unknowable. It could be a fan of his work. It could be him. All I know is that the name is being used, and the words of the man don't add up with most feelings I have seen expressed about PRESIDENT Bush, his credibility, and his vision.


94 posted on 02/06/2005 10:25:53 AM PST by JCRoberts
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD
Our troll has a blog!?

Iliya Pavlovich, PhD Blog

95 posted on 02/06/2005 10:28:02 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". -- Dave Barry)
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To: Slings and Arrows

96 posted on 02/06/2005 10:29:38 AM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD; MeekOneGOP

If the truth were told, there are a lot of folks alive today only because it's against the law to kill em!!

97 posted on 02/06/2005 10:46:03 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Anti-Bush sentiment swills around the Rat Party like the contents of an open sewer)
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD

In before the ZOT!


98 posted on 02/06/2005 10:47:41 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: iliya Pavlovich PhD

A vanity for our first post?

How utterly charming!

This does not pass the smell test, you know.....


99 posted on 02/06/2005 10:54:19 AM PST by fastattacksailor (Submariners do it deeper!)
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100 posted on 02/06/2005 10:56:07 AM PST by fastattacksailor (Submariners do it deeper!)
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