I use my patented Dave-O-Meter™. :o)
Posted on 01/11/2005 6:18:33 PM PST by malakhi
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Not generally. And not in this case either.
(BTW, Wikipedia has the wrong Stephen here.) The CE
Under Stephen VI, the successor of Boniface, Emperor Lambert and Agiltrude recovered their authority in Rome at the beginning of 897, having renounced their claims to the greater part of Upper and Central Italy. Agiltrude being determined to wreak vengeance on her opponent even after his death, Stephen VI lent himself to the revolting scene of sitting in judgment on his predecessor, Formosus. At the synod convened for that purpose, he occupied the chair; the corpse, clad in papal vestments, was withdrawn from the sarcophagus and seated on a throne; close by stood a deacon to answer in its name, all the old charges formulated against Formosus under John VIII being revived. The decision was that the deceased had been unworthy of the pontificate, which he could not have validly received since he was bishop of another see. All his measures and acts were annulled, and all the orders conferred by him were declared invalid. The papal vestments were torn from his body; the three fingers which the dead pope had used in consecrations were severed from his right hand; the corpse was cast into a grave in the cemetery for strangers, to be removed after a few days and consigned to the Tiber. In 897 the second successor of Stephen had the body, which a monk had drawn from the Tiber, reinterred with full honours in St. Peter's. He furthermore annulled at a synod the decisions of the court of Stephen VI, and declared all orders conferred by Formosus valid. John IX confirmed these acts at two synods, of which the first was held at Rome and the other at Ravenna (898).
SD
Malakhi can tell when I am speaking tongue in cheek. Aks him how he does it.
SD
No.
SD
Actually, upon further review, there is some confusion in numbering Stephens, as the second one died after election, but before consecration. So depending on whether you count this one or not, the Stephen who executed the corpse is either 6 or 7.
SD
I had an overweight wife once but that is a different story. :-)
Then again, a preference is just that.
The fact is there were many Popes not nearly as Holy and correct as you.
Do anything for a couple thousand years and you're gonna have some clunkers.
SD
The soon-to-be-former-mrs.-malakhi and I took in her grandparent's cat when they could no longer care for her. This cat was grossly obese, 22 lbs. When it did move, it waddled, and looked more like a raccoon than a cat. In addition to canned cat food, it was routinely fed KFC, cookies, chicken salad sandwiches, etc. This cat would eat just about anything.
We put her on a restricted (i.e. normal) diet, a mix of half Science Diet hard food and half canned food. Fed the other cats separately so she couldn't poach from their bowls. Over about a year, she lost several pounds, and consequently became much more active.
New England at Pittsburgh, week 3
Steelers on Monday night three times (at SD and Indy, hosting Ravens on Halloween)
Pittsburgh at Green Bay week 9
(Oh, and Tom Brady hosting SNL this weekend)
SD
I use my patented Dave-O-Meter™. :o)
No.
What about keeping a relic of a saint in your home?
Packers host New England for the third preseason game, and the Stillers for a regular season game on 11/6.
I suppose if it doesn't clash with the furniture.
I'm not real fluent in the way relics come about, but I assume that is actually a good argument for not cremating and especially scattering. If there is some use for relics, it would be good that they not be reduced to ashes, dispersed or placed into an urn somewhere to be forgotten.
SD
If you are cremated, does this mean you are trying to urn your way into heaven? :o)
SD
I repent in sackcloth and ashes. :o)
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