Posted on 01/11/2005 6:18:33 PM PST by malakhi
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Sure! But unlikely. Remember that all those who die and go on to Heaven are "saints" (that's the definition). Those the Church officially recognizes as saints are those whose life was so clearly in line with the Lord's will (and who have exhibited in death evidence of their eternal address) that there can be no doubt that they ARE among those in Heaven.
If the Church were to become convinced that she is such a person, an official recognition of her eternal home is not inappropriate. But as has been said... the things that have put her name at the top of headlines for the last few years don't add or subtract from that calculus.
Being identified as "Catholic" and having high public name recognition does not add weight to whether one is a "saint". Though, of course, if she WAS a believer, than she IS a saint - there's just little chance of an "official" recognition of this fact.
I don't think that's an accurate statement.
That's what we do! :)
We went to Mt. Pleasant Friday and our son made it into the finals with a perfect score. It was one of the best years they had. They had 15 perfect scores. (out of the 100 contestants) They had a runoff to narrow the field to the top 10. Our son made it into the top 10. He didn't win and won't be going to Washington DC for the Nationals but we are pleased with his performance and proud of him just the same. :)
I have ancestors through my maternal grandfather who settled and farmed in the Mt. Pleasant area in the 1820s/'30s. I remember as a child visiting my elderly great aunt's home, and they were still running the farm then. I think in the last 30 years they finally sold it, though.
They were so gung ho on following the letter of the law. Wish they spent half as much energy following the letter of the law regarding illegal aliens as they did in murdering Terri Schindler. I refuse to tack her adultering husband's name to hers. He couldn't keep his marriage vow but by golly he sure made sure to keep an alledged vow to let her die, even if it meant killing her ahead of time.
I know the Pope was old and in bad health but I liked him for the most part and think he will be missed by many that aren't even Catholic.
I wish he had been in better health the past few weeks since I think he would have been more verbal about the murder of Terri Schindler.
Something else. I heard on FNC today that the church okayed cremation, just not the dispersion of the ashes. My question is why? Does the church think that YHWH can't resurrect dispersed ashes? Can't recreate if needed? Doesn't make sense.
Do you have any thoughts on that?
ROFLOL!
BigMack
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Just for fun, the rain turned into snow Saturday night and most of yesterday. It wasn't below freezing, but it snowed anyway. Didn't have to shovel, but it did crust up hard o my windshield.
Still, could be worse. They got hammered by snow in Erie and the eastern side of the state got 10-12 inches of rain. That's incredible. We had severe flooding in September with 5-6 inches of rain.
SD
From the Catechism:
2300 The bodies of the dead must be treated with respect and charity, in faith and hope of the Resurrection. The burial of the dead is a corporal work of mercy; 92 it honors the children of God, who are temples of the Holy Spirit.
The Church permits cremation, provided that it does not demonstrate a denial of faith in the resurrection of the body. 93
I think it speaks to disrespect for the body. Dispersing one's "temple of the Holy Spirit" seems to signify that one is gone forever. Honoring the body or its cremains shows that we intend to live in it again. Scattering it to the winds or dumping it into the ocean is a statement that the body is not needed.
SD
It was gorgeous this weekend. Mostly sunny on Saturday, and not a cloud to be seen yesterday. We got up near 60° on Saturday, and up to 62° yesterday.
On Saturday, I drove up north with my mother, to the cottage she is building on property she owns along the Menominee River. It is mostly done, they are just doing the detail work now (although they won't be able to build the deck until the ground thaws). Spent much of the day outdoors. I came into the office yesterday to get some work done, but did manage to spend some time outside.
It is sunny again this morning, and is supposed to be nice again today and tomorrow. So should be some good weather headed your way!
He made a good start to healing wounds and noting past transgressions with the Jewish community. From meeting with the rabbi of the synagogue of Rome to traveling to Israel, he layed the groundwork for the Western Church to continue on, after his passing.
Do you actually believe an urn of ashes on the mantel is more meaningful than the same ashes lovingly scattered in the wind-ocean?
The body is not needed! I have spoken. No further discussion is necessary.
I don't think you thinking me full of baloney is in any way related to what you understand or misunderstand. (And, in any event, lunch is not for another hour or so.)
Do you actually believe an urn of ashes on the mantel is more meaningful than the same ashes lovingly scattered in the wind-ocean?
Yeah, I think that's what I said. One is showing respect for the body and the other is disposing of it.
The body is not needed!
The human is body, soul, and spirit united. We are not gnostics trapped in a materialist prison.
SD
"The firm had suspended betting for one day Sunday out of respect to John Paul, who died Saturday."
See, they're a classy operation. [rolls eyes]
That's a day longer than the priestess agitators gave.
SD
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