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WTC Rescue Workers Silenced After Discovery Of Black Boxes
propagandamatrix.com ^ | December 13 2004 | Greg Szymanski

Posted on 12/13/2004 7:37:47 AM PST by B4Ranch

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To: Rennes Templar

To Embarass the Bush Administration


41 posted on 12/13/2004 8:03:20 AM PST by scannell
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To: mountaineer

He also helped the Wright brothers after their intial crash landing at Kitty Hawk.


42 posted on 12/13/2004 8:11:33 AM PST by scottybk ("Pure democracy is 2 tigers and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch." Benj. Franklin)
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To: B4Ranch
We may never know everything about what happened on 9/11/2001.

However, it has been shown time and time again how out of control the intelligence machine that Bush inherited from Clinton was.

This story has the fingerprint that has surfaced in other incidences since 9/11; leaks for political gain seem to be in the forefront.

While there are points in this story that invite skepticism, to ignore the possibility for some element of truth shows a severe lack of an ability to be open minded, pragmatic or intellectually honest.

This guy may be the Antichrist; but the Federal Agents telling him to keep his mouth shut angle should be familiar to anyone following the news from any activity that the Clinton-Era Intelligence community had anything to do with.

OKC Bombing, Waco, Ruby Ridge, WTC Bombing (1993) and now 9/11. Look back in the news and archives. You will see that this is a recurring concept.

The only thing that certain is that the "tin foil hat" naysayers will be out in numbers trying to convince the rest of the readers to not give the story any credence at all.

And we; both myself and the naysayers condemn the main stream press as biased.

Charity begins at home.
43 posted on 12/13/2004 8:12:50 AM PST by Dalite (If PRO is the opposite of CON, What is the opposite of PROgress? Go Figure....)
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To: B4Ranch
DeMasi said the “black boxes” were found while he traversed “ground zero” in his all-terrain vehicle (ATV) with three federal agents

Now, I'm not saying there were no ATVs traversing the pile circa January 2002. For all I know there could have been.

I'm just finding it very odd that, with cameras on the site 24/7, I never ever noticed an ATV at that time, when the fires had just been put out and the pile was very very unstable.

44 posted on 12/13/2004 8:13:11 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: COEXERJ145
While it is certain they survived the impact, they were incinerated in the ensuing fire which was hot enough to melt the large steel rod in the center of the WTC.

Assuming that parts of the aircraft didn't exit the other side of the building (including the tail of the plan, where the box is located), I'm sure that even as indestructible as those boxes are, they would've been flattened by all the rubble on top of them as well.

45 posted on 12/13/2004 8:14:41 AM PST by Lou L
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To: MineralMan
If anyone found those boxes it would most likely have been at the Great Kills landfill on Staten Island. This is where they found 10,000 plus personal items and thousands of body parts (many of which have yet to be identified). It is most probable that the Black Boxes were ground to dust in millions of tons of falling concrete and steel unless they were ejected from the site at time of impact. These people need to loosen their tin foil beanies.
46 posted on 12/13/2004 8:17:09 AM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: COEXERJ145

For those who believe that the steel in the WTC melted, unlike in every other steel frame building fire:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041112144051451

(Just because a bunch of anti-Bush fanatics raise questions about WTC doesn't mean the questions are silly. There may be much more to 9/11 than meets the eye for reasons having nothing to do with Bush. To me it is odder to suggest that the "black boxes" weren't found than that they were, and the government chooses to conceal that fact for some reason.


47 posted on 12/13/2004 8:17:35 AM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: B4Ranch

Why indeed. With the obvious caveat that the source here is uber-suspect, it has always been incredibly fishy that these boxes weren't found. They're made to survive and virtually always do. The only thing I can figure is that the actual data might accentuate the gross incompetence on display by all concerned on that morning, and shake confidence in an already reeling airline industry. Those planes almost certainly deviated from their prescribed flight plans LOOOOOOONNNNNNG before they hit those buildings, yet no major alarm was raised.

MM


48 posted on 12/13/2004 8:18:45 AM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: kx9088

I wondered the same thing.


49 posted on 12/13/2004 8:20:33 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

It's rather convenient that this conspiracy theory doesn't cover the recovery of flt 93's black box.


50 posted on 12/13/2004 8:20:33 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Woodman

"If anyone found those boxes it would most likely have been at the Great Kills landfill on Staten Island. This is where they found 10,000 plus personal items and thousands of body parts (many of which have yet to be identified)."

Indeed. They sifted through the debris with a fine-toothed comb there. A truly gruesome job for the workers, who never really got recognized for their work.


51 posted on 12/13/2004 8:20:52 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

We've got links to Alex Jones and Barrie Zwicker on this thread, and it's still here, so now *I* am impressed. :D


52 posted on 12/13/2004 8:22:30 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: B4Ranch
FWIW, a "black box" pic:


53 posted on 12/13/2004 8:23:33 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: B4Ranch

Aha! The black boxes from WTC were used to rig the electronic voting machines in Ohio and Florida! Finally! The proof!

The "Bush Code" was secretly hidden in the black boxes to be put into the electronic voting machines for the second term elections! Karl Rove planned it all right from the start when the fiasco in Florida first started.

Then the people in charge of transporting the code got the heeby-geebies and threatened to spill the beans. And THAT's when Bush ordered the planes to fly into to WTC!

It all comes together now! This is hugh! They think the whole country is morans who would never figure it out. Ha!

May I have another Kool-Aid please? Here, just pour it into this handy tin foil hat that doubles for a cup!


54 posted on 12/13/2004 8:24:08 AM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: Lou L
I'm sure that even as indestructible as those boxes are, they would've been flattened by all the rubble on top of them as well.

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Not necessarily. I saw and moved computer screens in the Pit that survived the collapse, not many but a few.

55 posted on 12/13/2004 8:26:39 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: MineralMan

My wife is an audiologist and uses ASL everyday. I only know a couple of signs, and that is one of my most used.


56 posted on 12/13/2004 8:27:08 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: hellinahandcart

Advertising revenue, this thread sponsored by Reynolds Wrap.


57 posted on 12/13/2004 8:28:06 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I'm here because I'm not all there.)
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To: valuesvaluesvalues
>>Garbage. Two guys found 3 of the blackboxes riding around on a ATV? Right....<<

The flight data recorder records things like airspeed, heading, and altitude. Both devices - located in the tail of the airplane - emit loud “pings” so they can be located even in ocean jetliner crashes, like the 1996 explosion of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island. ****************************************************** I don't think the pings are audible, they could be. * ******************************************************

58 posted on 12/13/2004 8:28:42 AM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: B4Ranch

Michael Moore will have a sequel in the works.


59 posted on 12/13/2004 8:29:39 AM PST by DOGEY
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To: B4Ranch
Honorary firefighter Mike Bellone claims he was approached by unknown bureau agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002.

An “honorary firefighter” personally managed to find “three of the four” black boxes amongst the millions of tons of flaming debris.

Idiocy.

60 posted on 12/13/2004 8:30:10 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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