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Ron Artest has no business in the NBA (live witness)
Detroit Free Press via The Miami Herald ^ | Nov. 20, 2004 | MICHAEL ROSENBERG

Posted on 11/20/2004 6:32:10 PM PST by monkapotamus

Posted on Sat, Nov. 20, 2004

Ron Artest has no business in the NBA

By MICHAEL ROSENBERG

Detroit Free Press

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. - Go away, Ron Artest. Go far, far away.

Last week, you were an amusing circus act.

For much of Friday night, you were the best basketball player in the building.

And then you were something beyond Idiot and several miles past Nuts.

And now you need to disappear - not for a week, not for a month, and not for any amount of time that can be defined in conventional basketball terms. We're not measuring this in games missed. It goes beyond that.

An intense regular-season basketball game morphed into one of the ugliest nights in sports history Friday, and it's all because of Artest, the Pacers forward. Without him, there is no riot at the Pistons-Pacers game. Period.

Let's replay what happened: Artest committed a hard foul on Ben Wallace, which happens. Wallace retaliated with a shove to Artest's face, which was over the top, but it happens.

Artest went to lie down on the scorers' table like a sunbather and briefly grabbed a headset from the Pacers' broadcast team - which doesn't happen, but wasn't a huge deal. As other players scuffled, a fan threw a water bottle at Artest's head.

That was stupid and irresponsible - BUT IT HAPPENS. It shouldn't, but it does. And the expected level of decorum for players and coaches is higher than it is for fans.

Then Artest jumped up and ran into the stands with fists flying. He got there so fast, he almost knocked me over before I knew he was there.

Stupid me, I was watching the court.

Then Pacers Jermaine O'Neal, Eddie Gill and Steven Jackson jumped into the stands. Pistons broadcaster Rick Mahorn, trying to play peacemaker, followed. It was hard to tell who was trying to break up fights and who was trying to start one. Fans screamed "I punched Artest!" Or, if they were on the receiving end, "He hit me! He hit me!"

The next thing you knew, Artest coldcocked somebody, and O'Neal was said to have done the same, and chairs flew at the Pacers.

And a lot of it was inexcusable. But none of it would have happened if Artest had done what athletes are trained to do forever: ignore the fans.

You never, ever, EVER run into the stands. And if you dispute that, please tell me one time, just when, when a situation got better when a player bolted into the crowd.

As Palace President Tom Wilson said, "we're paid a lot of money" to maintain poise in that situation.

"I don't know that there was a security failure," Wilson said.

Wrong. Somebody let Artest into the building.

That can't happen for a long time, and it won't. Expect the longest suspension in NBA history. And expect police charges, although none was filed Friday.

What Ron Artest did has nothing to do with sports, nothing to do with the Pacers-Pistons rivalry and very little to do with the water bottle. He has teetered on the wall between sanity and insanity for a while, and Friday he fell on the wrong side. No, not fell. Jumped.

This is obviously a man in need of some serious help. Last week, when he asked coach Rick Carlisle for some time off to promote his CD, he was an amusing sideshow. There goes Ron-Ron again. Ha ha.

And Friday, he played brilliantly. He was the reason the Pacers won, 97-82. Then he was the reason the game ended with 45.9 seconds left.

Over the loudspeakers, fans were asked to leave the Palace. Then, and only then, did the clock wind down from 45.9. It was way, way, way too late.

Finally, long after the game was officially over, the Pacers' team bus departed the parking lot. It moved past the Pistons' cars, all of which were running, so that the Detroit players could make a quick exit. (None of them spoke to the media.)

Rain fell on the Palace parking lot. And as the bus wedged between a dozen or more police cars and a few ambulances, this much was clear: Ron Artest was in the wrong vehicle.


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KEYWORDS: artest; basketball; nba
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1 posted on 11/20/2004 6:32:10 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: monkapotamus

...and take Allen Iverson and Latrell Sprewell with you.


2 posted on 11/20/2004 6:33:12 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: monkapotamus
As other players scuffled, a fan threw a water bottle at Artest's head.

Actually it was a paper cup, and the amount water (or beer) that it contained was negligible. ......and it bounced harmlessly off Artest's chest.

That was enough to set the nutcase off, unfortunately.

3 posted on 11/20/2004 6:41:25 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: monkapotamus

The NBA IS a circus act. Every night we see even stranger freaks of nature exhibit even more bizarre behaviors and then demand even more amounts of money while demanding even more "respect".

Not the basketball of the 60's and 70's, when they called traveling as a penalty and not a junket to Vegas......


4 posted on 11/20/2004 6:42:59 PM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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To: monkapotamus
Site Meter You can have Ben Wallace too!
5 posted on 11/20/2004 6:47:07 PM PST by KMC1
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To: dfwgator

What was the deal with him lying prone on the scorer's table during the fight?


6 posted on 11/20/2004 7:29:40 PM PST by motife
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To: motife

Well now he has all that free time to promote his rap album like he wanted.


7 posted on 11/20/2004 7:30:53 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: monkapotamus
I am a (former?)Pacers fan but cannot defend the actions of these hoodlums. No matter what David Stern does, IMO it won't be severe enough.
8 posted on 11/20/2004 7:31:52 PM PST by rdl6989 (4 More Years! 4 More Years!)
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To: dfwgator

I'll wager there are arrests, and convictions. This one got too much press for these A-holes to get away with it this time.

I hope they jail time.


9 posted on 11/20/2004 8:01:50 PM PST by FBD (U.S. Marines: travel agents to the 72 virgins)
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To: FBD

Do you think that they'll extradite these guys to Michigan to face trial? I suspect that they'll work something out to keep it from going to trial.


10 posted on 11/20/2004 10:13:27 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: monkapotamus

I thought it was pretty funny. The fan got what he deserved for once.


11 posted on 11/20/2004 10:15:39 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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Okay, do we see you in the news footage? What color shirt were you wearing?


12 posted on 11/20/2004 10:15:47 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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Do you think that they'll extradite these guys to Michigan to face trial?

I think the public pressure to prosecute will be great enough that they won't have a choice but to extradite them.

13 posted on 11/20/2004 10:40:53 PM PST by rdl6989 (4 More Years! 4 More Years!)
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To: WFTR
I know it's a Blue state, but this article is in the Detroit free press:

Ron Artest has no business in the NBA (live witness) Detroit Free Press via The Miami Herald ^ | Nov. 20, 2004 | MICHAEL ROSENBERG

14 posted on 11/21/2004 12:19:39 AM PST by FBD (U.S. Marines: travel agents to the 72 virgins)
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To: WFTR

whoops, I was having the same conversation on another thread. accidently pinged you to this thread!

my bad.

But yes, I think they will press charges, and order at least Artest to stand trial in Michigan.

At the very least, Artest is done for the NBA. For good.

Regards


15 posted on 11/21/2004 12:26:18 AM PST by FBD (U.S. Marines: travel agents to the 72 virgins)
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To: monkapotamus

its final: I MISS THE NHL


16 posted on 11/21/2004 12:35:25 AM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (Ted Nugent for Michigan Governor In 2006)
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To: WFTR
Okay, do we see you in the news footage? What color shirt were you wearing?

Me? No. "Live Witness" added to title refers to the author's statement:

"Then Artest jumped up and ran into the stands with fists flying. He got there so fast, he almost knocked me over before I knew he was there."

17 posted on 11/21/2004 12:36:24 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: WFTR; Sir Gawain
Do you think that they'll extradite these guys to Michigan to face trial? I suspect that they'll work something out to keep it from going to trial.

Hopefully the fan(s) will also be charged, tried and convicted. Although I'm sure they'll get a ton of money in an out of court settlement, they still deserve to be punished criminally.

18 posted on 11/21/2004 6:18:58 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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The fans should be treated however the authorities usually treat fans who throw something onto the court or run onto the court during play. The fans should receive a fine, but I don't see any point in them doing jail time either. Nothing in this mess is worth the taxpayers having to pay for a full trial.

Bill

19 posted on 11/21/2004 6:36:50 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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The fans should receive a fine, but I don't see any point in them doing jail time either. Nothing in this mess is worth the taxpayers having to pay for a full trial.

Clearly they're guilty of assault and/or battery for throwing the beer and fighting with the players. The law should be brought down and brought down HARD on the fans.

20 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:12 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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