Crime and Votes.

Angel

[Haro_546]

Many pundits say that election 2004 was about morals; moral voters pulled it for bush while immoral ones for kerry. Since crime is consequence of immorality, crime rates by county, especially in battleground states, should resemble election results.

[Haro_546]

Can anyone confirm this?

[A Jovial Cad]

Confirm what?

[alessandrofiaschi]

Are sKerry's supporters all criminals or... are all criminals sKerry's supporters? This is the question! Please help... them (if you must)!!!

[stockpirate]

I tihink your question is, Are crime rates lower in counties that voted for Bush verses counties that voted for Kerry.

The problem with this is that in some cases it may be true, but in some counties Bush won by small margins so the county appears red.

[Haro_546]

mmmm margin of victory for kerry should be in the highest in crime ridden counties.

[alessandrofiaschi]

"mmmm margin of victory for kerry should be in the highest in crime ridden counties."

Well, I think they are the highest.

[Haro_546]

Thanks.

[alessandrofiaschi]

We could find some statistics in internet. I'm really curious.

[Michael Goldsberry]

http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm

("1" is highest crime rate in that category, "50" is lowest crime rate.  Rankings based on 1998 rates per 100,000 population.)

	MURDER	RAPE	ROBBERY	ASSAULT	BURGLARY	MV-THEFT
Alabama	8	26	22	22	14	32
Alaska	18	1	34	8	34	20
Arizona	8	30	12	15	4	1
Arkansas	13	21	30	18	16	36
California	19	33	6	10	24	6
Colorado	27	9	36	28	28	23
Connecticut	30	44	20	35	36	24
Delaware	40	2	8	6	21	19
Florida	20	7	5	3	2	3
Georgia	8	32	9	19	12	8
Hawaii	44	34	28	44	15	14
Idaho	39	29	43	32	29	44
Illinois	7	23	4	5	23	16
Indiana	14	28	25	24	27	29
Iowa	47	42	41	30	31	42
Kansas	23	13	33	26	19	40
Kentucky	27	35	38	41	38	41
Louisiana	1	19	7	4	5	10
Maine	44	49	45	47	35	49
Maryland	4	25	1	11	18	9
Massachusetts	44	38	29	7	41	18
Michigan	15	5	16	12	22	7
Minnesota	41	6	31	42	30	35
Mississippi	2	18	23	29	7	33
Missouri	15	39	18	17	20	15
Montana	30	50	47	46	47	39
Nebraska	37	43	37	20	39	31
Nevada	5	4	3	23	9	2
New Hampshire	48	24	43	49	50	48
New Jersey	32	46	10	31	32	17
New Mexico	3	3	14	1	1	4
New York	25	45	2	21	42	27
North Carolina	8	31	15	14	3	34
North Dakota	50	26	49	50	49	45
Ohio	32	15	21	40	26	26
Oklahoma	22	12	32	13	8	22
Oregon	35	17	27	25	17	11
Pennsylvania	24	39	13	33	46	30
Rhode Island	42	20	39	34	37	25
South Carolina	12	11	17	2	6	21
South Dakota	49	22	46	45	48	50
Tennessee	6	10	11	9	10	12
Texas	17	16	19	16	13	13
Utah	37	14	40	36	25	28
Vermont	43	37	50	48	32	46
Virginia	21	41	26	39	44	38
Washington	34	8	24	27	11	5
West Virginia	29	48	42	38	40	43
Wisconsin	36	47	35	43	43	37
Wyoming	26	36	48	37	45	47

[alessandrofiaschi]

SIMPLY YOU'RE GREAT!

[alessandrofiaschi]

ANY OTHER STATISTIC FOR BIG CITIES?

[Haro_546]

It would be better by city or county. and more recent data.

[alessandrofiaschi]

Perhaps in some post on FR, just before Nov. 2, we may find something more. If I remember...

[visualops]

Since those stats are by state, they can't be accurately compared with the county 2004 vote map. One could compare them to the electoral college- but I'd venture to say that those stats are old.

[Michael Goldsberry]

Ignore the links, they won't work.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit04pop.htm

OVERALL: (350 cities)
SAFEST 25:		MOST DANGEROUS 25:
1	Amherst, NY	1	Detroit, MI
2	Brick Twnshp, NJ	2	St. Louis, MO
3	Mission Viejo, CA	3	Atlanta, GA
4	Simi Valley, CA	4	Camden, NJ
5	Cary, NC	5	Washington, DC
6	Thousand Oaks, CA	6	Compton, CA
7	Colonie, NY	7	Dayton, OH
8	Clarkstown, NY	8	Baltimore, MD
9	Orem, UT	9	Tampa, FL
10	Sunnyvale, CA	10	Gary, IN
11	Farmington Hills, MI	11	Memphis, TN
12	Troy, MI	12	North Charleston, SC
13	Irvine, CA	13	New Orleans, LA
14	Lake Forest, CA	14	Richmond, VA
15	Sterling Heights, MI	15	Trenton, NJ
16	Canton Twnshp, MI	16	Jackson, MS
17	Roswell, GA	17	Cincinnati, OH
18	Parma, OH	18	Youngstown, OH
19	Provo, UT	19	Cleveland, OH
20	Huntington Beach, CA	20	Springfield, MA
21	Stamford, CT	21	Oakland, CA
22	Hamilton Twnshp, NJ	22	Birmingham, AL
23	Billings, MT	23	Miami, FL
24	Edison Twnshp, NJ	24	Richmond, CA
25	Fremont, CA	25	Reading, PA
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CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (31 cities)
Safest 10:		Most Dangerous 10:
1	San Jose, CA	1	Detroit, MI
2	El Paso, TX	2	Washington, DC
3	Honolulu, HI	3	Baltimore, MD
4	Austin, TX	4	Memphis, TN
5	San Diego, CA	5	Dallas, TX
6	New York, NY	6	Columbus, OH
7	San Antonio, TX	7	Philadelphia, PA
8	San Francisco, CA	8	Nashville, TN
9	Portland, OR	9	Milwaukee, WI
10	Seattle, WA	10	Houston, TX
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CITIES OF 100,000 TO 499,999 POPULATION: (199 cities)
Safest 10:		Most Dangerous 10:
1	Amherst, NY	1	St. Louis, MO
2	Simi Valley, CA	2	Atlanta, GA
3	Thousand Oaks, CA	3	Dayton, OH
4	Sunnyvale, CA	4	Tampa, FL
5	Irvine, CA	5	Gary, IN
6	Sterling Heights, MI	6	New Orleans, LA
7	Provo, UT	7	Richmond, VA
8	Huntington Beach, CA	8	Jackson, MS
9	Stamford, CT	9	Cincinnati, OH
10	Fremont, CA	10	Cleveland, OH
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CITIES OF 75,000 TO 99,999 POPULATION: (120 cities)
Safest 10:		Most Dangerous 10:
1	Brick Twnshp, NJ	1	Camden, NJ
2	Mission Viejo, CA	2	Compton, CA
3	Cary, NC	3	North Charleston, SC
4	Colonie, NY	4	Trenton, NJ
5	Clarkstown, NY	5	Youngstown, OH
6	Orem, UT	6	Reading, PA
7	Farmington Hills, MI	7	West Palm Beach, FL
8	Troy, MI	8	Wilmington, NC
9	Lake Forest, CA	9	Miami Beach, FL
10	Canton Twnshp, MI	10	Longview, TX
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(Click here for a full list of Included Metro Areas)

OVERALL (281 METROPOLITAN AREAS):
Safest 25:		Most Dangerous 25:
1	Bangor, ME	1	Pine Bluff, AR
2	Appleton-Oshkosh-Neenah, WI	2	New Orleans, LA
3	Wausau, WI	3	Miami, FL
4	La Crosse, WI-MN	4	Jackson, MS
5	Danbury, CT	5	Stockton-Lodi, CA
6	Stamford-Norwalk, CT	6	Myrtle Beach, SC
7	Sheboygan, WI	7	Alexandria, LA
8	Eau Claire, WI	8	Albuquerque, NM
9	State College, PA	9	Sumter, SC
10	Bismarck, ND	10	Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
11	Provo-Orem, UT	11	Baton Rouge, LA
12	Middlesex-Somerset-Hunterdon, NJ	12	Las Vegas, NV-AZ
13	Monmouth-Ocean, NJ	13	Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA
14	Steubenville-Weirton, OH-WV	14	Houston, TX
15	Billings, MT	15	Phoenix-Mesa, AZ
16	Portsmouth-Rochester, NH-ME	16	Charleston-North Charleston, SC
17	Jamestown, NY	17	Baltimore, MD
18	Sharon, PA	18	Victoria, TX
19	Dutchess County, NY	19	Savannah, GA
20	Williamsport, PA	20	Tucson, AZ
21	Dubuque, IA	21	Lake Charles, LA
22	Florence, AL	22	Columbia, SC
23	Manchester, NH	23	Fayetteville, NC
24	Fargo-Moorhead, ND-MN	24	Montgomery, AL
25	Glens Falls, NY	25	Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL
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[Haro_546]

Here is one. and It would be better if we had a battleground state.

[Haro_546]

[Haro_546]

sorry, this is the county results for Illinois

[Haro_546]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/IL/P/00/map.html

[visualops]

For Illinois it seems to hold true that Dem strongholds have higher crime rates. I am reading that right aren't I? (Blue highest)