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Posted on 11/01/2004 8:35:27 AM PST by clyde260
Dear Friends, I hope this weekend finds you in good spirits and a clear mind to know who to vote for come Tuesday.
Here is a bit of good and bad news, but upon reflection no new news.
DEMOCRATS * Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71. * David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72. * Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72. * Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade. * Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam. * Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII. * John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with CombatV, Purple Hearts. * Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea. * Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam. * Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53. * Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74. * Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91. * Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons. * Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal. * Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit. * Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart. * Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V. * Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star. * Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57 * Chuck Robb: Vietnam * Howell Heflin: Silver Star * George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII. * Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311. * Jimmy Carter: Served seven years in the US Navy. * Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953 * John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters. * Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
REPUBLICANS * Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. * Dennis Hastert: did not serve. * Tom Delay: did not serve. * Roy Blunt: did not serve. * Bill Frist: did not serve. * Mitch McConnell: did not serve. * Rick Santorum: did not serve. * Trent Lott: did not serve. * John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business. * Jeb Bush: did not serve. * Karl Rove: did not serve. * Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism. * Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. * Vin Weber: did not serve. * Richard Perle: did not serve. * Douglas Feith: did not serve. * Eliot Abrams: did not serve. * Richard Shelby: did not serve. * Jon! Kyl: did not serve. * Tim Hutchison: did not serve. * Christopher Cox: did not serve. * Newt Gingrich: did not serve. * Donald Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; gotassigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend runningfor U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam,disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies. * B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea. * Phil Gramm: did not serve. * John McCain: POW; Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. * Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve. * John M. McHugh: did not serve. * JC Watts: did not serve. * Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years. * Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard. * Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. * George Pataki: did not serve. * Spencer Abraham: did not serve. * John Engler: did not serve. * Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer. * Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
MEDIA PUNDITS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, & PREACHERS * Sean Hannity: did not serve. * Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.') * Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. * Michael Savage: did not serve. * George Will: did not serve. * Chris Matthews: did not serve. * Paul Gigot: did not serve. * Bill Bennett: did not serve. * Pat Buchanan: did not serve. * John Wayne: did not serve. * Bill Kristol: did not serve. * Kenneth Starr: did not serve. * Antonin Scalia: did not serve. * Clarence Thomas: did not serve. * Ralph Reed: did not serve. * Michael Medved: did not serve. * Charlie Daniels: did not serve. * Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
Please keep this information circulating Sen. Howard W. Carroll mailto: senhwc@hotmail.com
LOL thanks, I should have spell checked.
CENSORED is more correct. I guess it is all in the spelling.
Funny how all the Democraps that have served have gutted and definanced the living hell out of the milatary, verse the ones that didn't serve overwealming support a strong military!
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I don't see Bill Clinton's name on their list. Seems they think only those who protest against America are fit to be President.
Democrats must be hard up to circulate anything this stupid and dishonest.
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And they're picking on my man, Charlie Daniels! Them's fightin' words, Rabbitt.
Seems like a useful thread. Bookmark later.
"This is old as hell.......and what does this have to do with anything?"
This was sent to me as well as "Lew's" other Lib Friends, and it was prefaced with a note to take comfort in voting straight Democratic ticket, and the author asked for it to be continued to be sent around.
1. I had never seen it before.
2. I hate it when they spin & twist, so I feel our job is to correct it.
3. The Senator who sent it signed his name and provided an e-mail addy. We should all use it!
Howlin, you are one of my first contacts here since I joined, and I have much admiration and respect for your input. I hope I clarified this well enough. My intentions are completely honorable, not vain. This e-mail has been bugging me since I got it.
"trying"? Do you question their competence? Their determination? Their knee pads?
The email itself is not a farse, it is yellow journalism. All those mentioned for the most part served or didn't, the problem is, they choose almost all the democrats that served and almost none of the republicans that didn't serve. All the polsters and journalists on the democrat side did not serve, do you see even one labelled? Where is Powell, where is Franks? Where is Schwartzehof? I debunked one such sending with about an hours's research and came up with a much longer list of those who did serve and are republican. The lib who sent it to me could only reply with some lame Bush cartoons. Typical.
"Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53."
Seved at SHAPE HQ after his daddy pulled some strings to get him out of what was then a 4 yr enlistment.
I don't see the points of the RATs selectively listing who "served" on their side and who didn't "serve" on ours, but we can cherry pick the lists and pretty much come up with the same premise.
Republicans
Abraham Lincoln -- Served, militia captain during the Black Hawk War
Dwight Eisenhower -- Served, Five-Star General, Commander of all Allied Forces during WWII
Barry Goldwater – Served, commissioned in the Air Force during WWII. He spent most of the war flying between the United States and India, via the Azores and North Africa or South America, Nigeria and Central Africa. He flew "the hump" over the Himalayas to deliver supplies to China. He remained in the reserves after the war, retiring at the rank of Major General. He had flown 165 different types of aircraft by that time.
Richard Nixon – Served, Commander, US Naval Reserve - World War II.
Gerald Ford – Served, U.S. Navy, WWII, Lieutenant Commander.
George H. W. Bush – Served, The YOUNGEST pilot in the navy during WWII. 18 years old and flying torpedo bombers from a carrier. Shot down by the Japanese and parachuted to safety.
Ronald Reagan – Served, US Army Air Corps (Captain, 1942-45)
Bob Dole – Served. Candidate for President that was horribly mutilated in Italy during WWII. Lost use of right arm while in battle, two Purple Hearts, Bronze Star Medal.
Donald Rumsfeld – Served, U.S. Navy, 1954-57, pilot, flight instructor
Richard Armitage – Served, U.S. Navy, Naval Academy, 3 combat tours in Vietnam.
Jesse Helms – Served. USN.
Strom Thurmond – Served, parachuted into Normandy with the Airborne on D-Day. U.S. Army , LTC U.S. Army R,; Maj Gen
Ben Nighthorse Campbell –Served. U.S. Army (Capt. of US Olympic Judo Tm)
Jeff Sessions –Served. U.S. Army R, CPT
Thad Cochran –Served. USN, LTJG
Don Nickels – Served.
James M. Inhofe – Served. U.S. Army
Lindsey O. Graham – Served. Air Nat Guard, present, MAJ
Sam Johnson – Served. Congressman from Texas who was a POW for 7 years.
“Duke” Cunningham – Served. CMDR Pilot & founder of Top Gun
Duncan Hunter – Served. U.S. Army , LT
Rob Simmons –Served. Army, COL CIA, Operations Off.
Dr. Dave Weldon., –Served. MAJ U.S. Army
Charlie Norwood, –Served. DDS RU.S. Army , CPT, Vietnam
Henry Hyde – Served. USN, ENSIGN USNR, CMDR
Dr Philip M. Crane, Ph.D –Served. U.S. Army , CPL. Defeated by someone who didn’t “serve”
Mark Steven Kirk –Served. Only Congressman to be on active duty during Iraq War. John Shimkus –Served. U.S. Army , CPT U.S. Army, Major, U.S. Army Academy Grad
Steve Buyer –Served. U.S. Army, LTC U.S. Army , CPT U.S. Army , MAJ (Gulf War) The Citadel, Graduate
Dan Burton –Served. U.S. Army , U.S. Army R,
Pat Roberts –Served. USMC, LT
Wayne Gilchrest –Served. USMC, SGT, Vietnam
Nick Smith –Served. U.S. Army F, CPT Intelligence Officer
Mike Rogers –Served. U.S. Army , CPT FBI, Special Agent, Chicago
Jim Ramstad –Served. U.S. Army R, LT
Roger F. Wicker –Served. U.S. Army F, CPT U.S. Army FR,Present, LTC
Doug Bereuter –Served. U.S. Army , LT
Heather A. Wilson – Served. SGT U.S. Army F, BS, U.S. Army F Academy, . Rhodes Scholar, Ph.d
Howard Coble– Served. Coast Guard, Coast Guard Res, O
George W. Gekas – Served. U.S. Army , CPL Defeated by someone who didn’t “serve”
Floyd Spence – Served. USNR, CAPTAIN (Korean Conflict,)
Van Hilleary – Served. U.S. Army F, CPT U.S. Army FR,present, MAJ
Ed Bryant – Served. U.S. Army , CPT
Dr Ron Paul, MD – Served. U.S. Army F, CPT Air National Guard
Virgil Goode – Served.. National Guard,.
Frank Wolf – Served. U.S. Army , U.S. Army R,
Tom Davis III – Served. U.S. Army , LT National Guard
Doc Hastings – Served. U.S. Army R, SPC
Craig Thomas – Served. USMC, LT
PUNDITS
G. Gordon Liddy – Served
Oliver North – Served, LtCol, USMC, Vietnam veteran, many decorations
Porter J. Goss U.S. Army – Served, CIA, Clandestine Services Officer
Bob Smith – Served. USN, Vietnam, ENSIGN USNR, SGT
William F. Buckley -- Served, U.S. Army, WWII (and CIA in 1946).
Ana Marie Cox, Served, U.S. Army, 2nd Lt., Delta Force, Afghanistan.
Democrats
Grover Cleveland – did not serve
Woodrow Wilson – did not serve
Franklin Roosevelt – did not serve, even though he was of age in WWI. Polio wasn’t an excuse either –he didn't become disabled with polio until he was in his early thirties
Adali Stevenson – did not serve. Ran against war hero.
Hubert Humphrey – did not serve
Jimmy Carter – “Served” in the U.S. naval academy while sitting out action in WWII
Michael Dukakis – did not serve. Once rode in a tank.
Bill Clinton – Did not serve, student deferments. Entered draft but received #318. Tried to use his employer, Senator Fulbright, to get him out of the draft. Lied to his draft board about his intention to enroll in an ROTC program. Never enrolled in an ROTC program. Went to England and aided the enemy with protest against US policy in Vietnam. Later wrote incredibly stupid letter to the head of his draft board, thanking him for help in escaping the draft. (Toured the former Soviet Bloc countries during this period too)
Hillary Clinton – Did not serve, but taught Special Forces how to fight dirty.
Chelsea Clinton – did not serve
Madeleine Albright -- Did not serve.
William Cohen -- Did not serve. (Technically he’s a Republican, but the Dem list put Chris Matthews down as a “Republican” so who’s counting?)
George Stephanopoulos -- Did not serve.
George Tenet -- Did not serve.
Sandy Berger – Did not serve.
Diane Feinstein – Did not serve.
Barbara Boxer – Did not serve.
'Chuck' Schumer – did not serve
Mark Dayton – did not serve
Patty Murray – did not serve
Sheila Jackson Lee Did not serve
Robert Wexler did not serve
Jerold Nadler did not serve in the military, but served as Jabba the Hutt in Star Wars
Joe Biden did not serve
Frank Lautenberg did not serve
Barack Obama did not serve
Dick Durbin did not serve
Russ Feingold did not serve
Jim Moran did not serve
Janet Napolitano – did not serve
Dennis Kucinich: did not serve.
Barney Frank: did not serve.
John Conyers: did not serve.
Melissa Bean - did not serve, but defeated someone who did
Cynthia McKinley – don’t even ask
Jim McDermott— claims to have been a Medic or something in Nam.
Robert Byrd – Not sure about this. Is "Knight of the KKK" analogous to a military position?
Kerry – Served. Won a few questionably attained purple hearts in four months of service. Claimed to have been sent to Cambodia by a president who wasn't in office.
Gore – Served after his dad got bodyguards for him. Was a reporter or some such in Vietnam.
Chairman Mao – Served. (He was not a Republican)
Benedict Arnold – Served. A general in the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War, he defected to the British side when he became disaffected due to perceived grievances he had suffered at the hands of the Continental Congress and the military.
PUNDITS
Michael Moore.. did not serve “conscienous objector”
Barbara Steisand .. did not serve
Al Franken – did not serve
Wolf Bilzter, -- Did not serve.
Tom Brokaw, -- Did not serve.
Alan Colmes, -- Did not serve.
Al Franken, -- Did not serve.
Thomas Friedman -- Did not serve.
Bill Maher -- Did not serve.
Tim Russert -- Did not serve.
Jon Stewart -- Did not serve.
Joshua Marshall -- Did not serve.
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