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Hi, I'm an independent and I'm newly zotted.

Posted on 10/21/2004 8:12:29 AM PDT by independent5

Hi, I'm new here. I'm an independent so not all of my views are conservative in nature. Am I welcome to post here? Is this is this the appropriate (general/chat) forum to post this in?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Free Republic Policy/Q&A
KEYWORDS: lyingliar; vkpac; zot
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Thus, the $1,000 the millionare gets back from a tax cut, goes to support the salary for a job that an unemployed person can get. That person in turn makes more than his salary for his business and the investor takes a share of that profit. The more money that goes to taxes rather than investment is the more money that is missing in making new jobs.

This is a good point. Independent5, what do you think rich people DO with their money, and why do you think the government will do anything better with it? [Note that I think it's irrelevant -- it belongs to the owner, regardless of who can or will use it the most effectively.]

161 posted on 10/22/2004 12:09:55 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Constitution Day; dighton; EggsAckley; general_re; BlueLancer; Zavien Doombringer; martin_fierro

Check out this trash, starting with #150.

I think the n00b is outing himself.


162 posted on 10/22/2004 12:10:04 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (I want to have fanatical henchmen when I grow up.)
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To: independent5

Oops, meant to ping you to that reply.


163 posted on 10/22/2004 12:10:39 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: independent5
I don't now how to answer that question.

Sure you do, but you won't because it gives you away.

What defines ownership?

My money, the fruits of my labor. The money I make honestly.

Are you talking material goods or what?

All of it, my stuff, my property, my money. C'mon lefty, hurry and answer while you still have posting privileges, your time is growing shorter than you think.

164 posted on 10/22/2004 12:11:12 PM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: independent5
I don't now how to answer that question. What defines ownership? Are you talking material goods or what?

For me, what I earn is mine. What I purchase with my earnings is mine. I don't need nor want another mother monitoring my purchases or taxing more of my earnings. It's my wallet, not yours.

165 posted on 10/22/2004 12:13:45 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: independent5

Did you vote for Howard Dean in the primaries?


166 posted on 10/22/2004 12:15:02 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Sloth

Sloth,

Of course everyone is different and uses their money differently. Sometimes the government does something better with their money than they do. Here's a ridiculous example: Rich guy buys a corvette just to watch it get smashed. Government would have given that money to better education.

Here's the real question that's in my mind on the issue:

Is it better for society to let the top 1% use their tax-cut money however they wish, or have the government spend it. I don't know the answer to that. I know that you say: "It doesn't matter, its not the government's money to begin with," to which I want to agree, but I think that's too simplistic of an outlook. Objective morality is based on the survival of the human community. Which means that's something we ought to work for -- we ought to try and do the best we can to help the human community.


167 posted on 10/22/2004 12:18:25 PM PDT by independent5
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To: independent5

Bye Bye


168 posted on 10/22/2004 12:19:03 PM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: independent5
Rich guy buys a corvette just to watch it get smashed. Government would have given that money to better education.

Bye Bye

169 posted on 10/22/2004 12:20:01 PM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I think you're right. MEOW.


170 posted on 10/22/2004 12:21:10 PM PDT by EggsAckley (.............TerriKerri = our Secret Weapon.............)
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To: independent5
okay - start singing "we are the world" and there will be a fight. No where in your "help me figure this out" about the use of taxation or property do you even consider the issue of accountability. Sure rich guy may buy the corvette to see it smashed - but does government expenditure on a program that is inefficient or serves only to perpetuate even bigger government constitute a wise use of funds to help humanity. This is getting really deep - and i do not mean in terms of intellectually
171 posted on 10/22/2004 12:23:11 PM PDT by knwilson
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To: independent5
Sometimes the government does something better with their money than they do. Here's a ridiculous example: Rich guy buys a corvette just to watch it get smashed. Government would have given that money to better education.

ROTFL... yeah, the Corvettes that grow on Magical Corvette Trees in Rich People Land. Nobody, you know, gets paid to build them or anything.

172 posted on 10/22/2004 12:23:59 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: independent5
HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!!!???

ALL YOUR POSTINGS ARE BELONG TO US!!!

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE, MAKE YOUR TIME!!!

HA HA HA

173 posted on 10/22/2004 12:24:40 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: EggsAckley

I have to admit, this guy has been able to work the slowest zot ever during an election year. Amazing how long he has lasted.


174 posted on 10/22/2004 12:25:44 PM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: Protagoras
Protagoras,

Sure you do, but you won't because it gives you away.

You already think I'm something that I'm not, what good would it do to hide something from you? I was being honest. I don't know how to answer that question as it was posed.

My money, the fruits of my labor. The money I make honestly.

That money belongs to you. But if you want any government services, then you need to contribute money to the government.

175 posted on 10/22/2004 12:26:51 PM PDT by independent5
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To: independent5

By the way, saying that more money = better education really does make you sound like a troll.


176 posted on 10/22/2004 12:27:08 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: independent5; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...

177 posted on 10/22/2004 12:27:09 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: ApesForEvolution; Darksheare
RKBA=Constitutional Right to Keep and Bare Arms

I thought it meant Road Kill Beeber Association

178 posted on 10/22/2004 12:28:50 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: Protagoras
Maybe he had it coming, but he was polite.

He could stay if it were up to me.

179 posted on 10/22/2004 12:29:13 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

He's still here.


180 posted on 10/22/2004 12:30:22 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (I want to have fanatical henchmen when I grow up.)
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