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1 posted on 10/19/2004 11:35:59 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: Bones75

Rodgers & Hammerstein were artists.

Mozart and Beethoven were artists.

Eminem is a loser.


2 posted on 10/19/2004 11:38:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge (K'nigget-Commander. Sergeant-At-Arms, Sentinel of Meetingplaces both Clandestine and Public.)
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To: Bones75

Well these are the things that happen when you sell your soul to the elitist entertainment left...


3 posted on 10/19/2004 11:39:43 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Paintball Gun: $44..Accessories: $55. Protecting campaign sign from Union thugs: Priceless!)
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To: Bones75
I believe this 100 percent, there is not another lyricst on the face of God's green Earth who can match his skills on the microphone. Nobody who has ever laid words over a beat can do it as good as he can.

Yup... and your generation invented sex, too.

5 posted on 10/19/2004 11:45:05 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Bones75

Kerry now has the all-star lineup of endorsements. Michael Moore, Yasser Arafat, and Eminem. Way to go.


6 posted on 10/19/2004 11:45:14 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Bones75

In the rap world he may be "talented", but in the rest of the world, he's a nobody.


7 posted on 10/19/2004 11:47:36 AM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: Bones75
Artist: Eminem
Song: Mosh
Album: Encore

Lyrics :

[I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands
One nation under God
Indivisible・
It feels so good to be back..]

Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight you take it as I知 gonna whip someone's a*s
If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mister kiss his a*s crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't steer you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't steer you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't steer you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

[Eminem speaking angrily]
And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they
should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own
army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present,
and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator
8 posted on 10/19/2004 11:50:02 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Bones75

You need to get out of your room Bones. Eminem has been and will always be trailer park trash.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 11:51:24 AM PDT by nascartex
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To: All

Whoah. I detect a bit of leftist tendencies in this thread.

As in: "Everything that isn't what I agree with is crap"

;-) Just messin' with ya'll. Probably just a generational gap is all. Trust me, I have been involved in music my whole life, classically trained pianist since 4th grade, (although slacked off on that later in life a bit) ..played guitar in rock bands in my teenage years, was a club DJ, and compose electronic music. So don't get the wrong idea about me. You would be surprised what music I enjoy, it varies greatly. However, you will never convince me that Eminem is not talented. Whether you personally like what he does is your own personal gig. Don't get the two confused.

Bones


11 posted on 10/19/2004 12:08:07 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: Bones75
This is an artist:

This is that eminem thing.

This is intelligence:

This is white trash:

See the difference?

12 posted on 10/19/2004 12:08:33 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: Bones75
I refuse to support them financially but I still want to listen to their music

So does this mean you download the songs without paying for them?
Hmmmmmm

13 posted on 10/19/2004 12:23:13 PM PDT by apackof2 (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: Bones75

Stealing is still stealing even when its digital.


14 posted on 10/19/2004 12:30:57 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: Bones75; Revolting cat!
...there is not another lyricst on the face of God's green Earth who can match his skills on the microphone. Nobody who has ever laid words over a beat can do it as good as he can.

Maybe so, but the Trashmen never let me down by spouting global socialist rhetoric.

17 posted on 10/19/2004 5:53:18 PM PDT by weegee (Jean Kerry: "Je suis un singe qui mange le fromage de la rédition")
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To: Bones75
I think we're all a bit puzzled by your professed admiration for M&M considering your own musical talents and skills. I mean, who doesn't sympathize with the esteemed Roger Kimball who recently expressed outrage that a New York Times critic (this is not the leftist political editorial page of NYSlimes we're talking about,) would declare that the midget poseur who goes by the name of "Prince" is this century's Mozart! And here you are declaring M&M the greatest lyricist if not of all time then of this time. As compared to who? Give us a reference point. How many lyricist do you follow? Can you name who are considered (by informed listeners and critics) the best song lyricists today? How about the underrated ones? The Nashville hit factory has lyricists dime a dozen, some good, some great, many mediocre, then there are those rock, Broadway, cabaret song lyricists, so please name us some names to compare with this genius.

Here's a title that just randomly popped into my head (really.) By Jamie O'Hara? Who? That's right, "who".

 
Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days) 

Words and Music by Jamie O'Hara

Grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days
Sometimes it feels like this worlds gone crazy
Grandpa, take me back to yesterday
When the line between right and wrong
Didn't seem so hazy

(Chorus)

Did lovers really fall in love to stay
And stand beside each other, come what may
Was a promise really something people kept
Not just something they would say
Did families really bow their heads to pray
Did daddies really never go away
Oh, grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days

Grandpa, everything is changing fast
We call it progress, but I just don't know
And grandpa, Let's wander back into the past
And paint me the picture of long ago

(Repeat Chorus)

Did lovers really fall in love to stay
And stand beside each other come what may
Was a promise really something people kept
Not just something they would say and then forget
Did families really bow their heads to pray
Did daddies really never go away
Oh, grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days
Oh, grandpa, tell me 'bout the good old days




22 posted on 10/19/2004 6:31:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Bones75

"I believe this 100 percent, there is not another lyricst on the face of God's green Earth who can match his skills on the microphone."

You're nuts. Your mentality stems from the fact that you obviously haven't had much exposure to anything other than mainstream rap. Anyone from the Def Jux camp (Eyedea, Mr. Lif, Aesop Rock) as well as Del the Funky Homosapian would blow that little pansy out of the water (in terms of both lyrics and freestyle). These guys are real hip-hop.


27 posted on 10/22/2004 12:12:53 PM PDT by Stakka Skynet
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To: Bones75

hes pandering for album sales. yes, he has sold out to the establishment and when this album sales half of what his last albums sold maybe hell figure it out.

to be honest, most people now days think of eminem as being soft..that he lost his edge from the fame and fortune... he has ran out of material and so instead of taking a vanguard approach like on albums past..he found himself jumping on the ABB bandwagon.. where he once percieved as a leader in the industry..he now seems to be the follower.


29 posted on 10/26/2004 1:16:54 PM PDT by beansox
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To: Bones75
Rap is not music!

It is chanting, or whatever.

Certainly not artistic in any way as far as I can tell.

44 posted on 10/30/2004 10:47:04 AM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: Bones75

Eminem? Talent?

You gotta be kiddin' me.


49 posted on 10/31/2004 2:46:02 PM PST by Dissident Aggressor
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To: Bones75
I agree that he has talent...I always disliked rap music but his songs were the only ones I liked...until this song.
I think the guy is just ignorant of what matters. He talks about solving problems here first...but what he fails to realize is that if we don't stop terroism, we won't have to worry about any problems here....
51 posted on 10/31/2004 3:49:33 PM PST by zoobee (BUSH BETTER WIN!!)
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