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"October Surprise" from the NY Times
10/17/04 | vanity

Posted on 10/17/2004 4:57:51 AM PDT by genefromjersey

Just read something on the CNN site: The New York Times is about to release a story alleging "routine mis-treatment" of detainees at Guantanamo: claiming they are stripped,herded into freezingly cold air conditioned cells,then subjected to strobe lights and ear-shattering rock music.

They are quoting "un-named sources,formerly attached to the facility."

Guess the gurus at the Times,who,to no one's surprise,have endorsed Kerry ( Phew ! How's THAT for a run-on sentence !),want to imitate the Washington Post and spring an "October surprise" on the Administration.

Considering the effect of the Abu Ghraib disclosures,I would suggest we all skip over the "they deserved it" comments-(Yes. They very likely deserved ANYTHING done to them !)-and launch our own Blogger's Inquiry.

Anybody with direct personal knowledge of conditions at Guantanamo,please step up !


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1 posted on 10/17/2004 4:57:51 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: genefromjersey

Sounds like the Administration is forcing them to go to a number of rock concerts, IMHO.


2 posted on 10/17/2004 4:59:11 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: genefromjersey
Considering the effect of the Abu Ghraib disclosures

And those effects, other than with the MSM and democratic naysayers were...???

3 posted on 10/17/2004 4:59:55 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Yea,so what,who cares


4 posted on 10/17/2004 5:00:59 AM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: genefromjersey

The story's posted on their website:


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/politics/17gitmo.html?hp&ex=1098072000&en=e29ccfe1afd6371a&ei=5094&partner=homepage


5 posted on 10/17/2004 5:02:05 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: genefromjersey
So ABC's Nightline interviews Vietnamese Communists (under the watchful eye of a Government handler) to confirm to all of us that Kerry is a "hero" while ignoring the testimoney of men like Congression Medal of Honor recipient Col "Bud" Day--and now we get more proganda from the MSM.

In the Civil War, Gen Sherman had "reporters" like this hung at dawn. When asked to comment, he said:

"We shall have news from Hell before breakfast."

6 posted on 10/17/2004 5:02:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Hardastarboard

Well I would agree with this type of treatment of POW's only if they are giving them massive amounts of LSD.


7 posted on 10/17/2004 5:02:31 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: genefromjersey

Speaking as someone who was there at almost the beginning, this is a bunch of crap. The detainees at GTMO were treated better than the inmates in our own prisons. We had to stop interviews so these guys were able to pray. Everything done was watched, there was no way these guys were mistreated.

I can probably guess who their unnamed sources are. We had some problems with translators early on, so I would suspect those were the unnamed sources.

Besides, look what "news media" this is coming from. Give me a break.


8 posted on 10/17/2004 5:03:27 AM PDT by mastour
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To: genefromjersey

What horrible treatment! I'll bet they're even forced to keep their heads on.


9 posted on 10/17/2004 5:03:38 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: genefromjersey
Since when does the NYT print anything but demorat propaganda bordering on outright slander...no suprise here, horsecrap news...


10 posted on 10/17/2004 5:04:25 AM PDT by Rain-maker
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To: genefromjersey

Like anybody who isn't already any Anybody but Bush voter would give a rat's ass about how the scumbags in Gitmo were "mistreated".


11 posted on 10/17/2004 5:04:50 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: genefromjersey

So the NYTimes figures to have their cake and eat it, too. If the rant elects Kerry, great! If not, then it's fodder for an immediate impeachment effort against GW.


12 posted on 10/17/2004 5:05:47 AM PDT by hershey (i)
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Ya know something? The "torture" that is described sounds a LOT like some parties that I have been to in Raleigh.
Seems that I had one hell of a time there!
Hoping to get stripped naked.
Small dance floor.
A/C kicked up all the way.
Strobe lights.
Hard rock music blasting out from 12 speakers at full volume.

Back in the day('69-'71), torture meant fingernails pulled out by pliers, clubs across the bottoms of the feet, a propane torch across... Well, you get the picture.
These pussies have no concept of REAL torture.
(I still have trouble sleeping at times.)


13 posted on 10/17/2004 5:06:16 AM PDT by A Real Dan Fan... NOT (A vote FOR Kerry/Edwards is a vote FOR terrorism.)
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To: genefromjersey

Cuba gets hot, hot, hot. If the prisoners actually have air conditioning, they are being treated much too well.


14 posted on 10/17/2004 5:07:01 AM PDT by T'wit (When Kerry's dying mother said, "Integrity, integrity, integrity," why didn't he listen?)
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To: genefromjersey

Great. Another meaningless nothing to be blasted at max volume by the media, that we'll get to hear the left dishonestly repeat and hype until we're all nauseous. If any of these hypocrites gave two squats about any Iraqi we'd see a lot more coverage of mass graves than Abu Ghraib.


15 posted on 10/17/2004 5:07:06 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("!Allahu Snackbar" - the war cry of the pajamadeen - Let's stop VOTE FRAUD NOW! Write your reps!)
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Democrat election strategy: Generate sympathy towards terrorists.
16 posted on 10/17/2004 5:07:21 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (Mainstream press is neither)
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To: genefromjersey

I am outraged! OUTRAGED! Outraged that this is all we're doing.


17 posted on 10/17/2004 5:07:50 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: JOHANNES801

Right, who cares. Put up a few pictures of Americans being beheaded by these homicidal maniacs, etc.. and see what traction the NYTimes gets with rational people.


18 posted on 10/17/2004 5:07:56 AM PDT by hershey (i)
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To: genefromjersey

"un-named sources" ? Isn't that the operative phrase for this didn't really happen but we're going to say it did for KRAZAY KERRRY.


19 posted on 10/17/2004 5:08:16 AM PDT by xtinct (Doing my best to piss the liberal heathen off.)
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To: genefromjersey
So the New York Slimes are going to try a variation of that AAbu Ghraib story. It's not going to work for you Slimes.
20 posted on 10/17/2004 5:08:35 AM PDT by demlosers ( ONI: “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”)
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