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1 posted on 10/15/2004 10:50:42 PM PDT by Libertarian Nationalist GOPr
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That is the conventional wisdom, however in the last Presidential election, the undecided broke more for Gore.


2 posted on 10/15/2004 10:51:45 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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Trolling today????


3 posted on 10/15/2004 10:52:23 PM PDT by flashbunny (John Kerry divided this country for political gain as a young man and he's dividing it again today.)
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The dolts over at DU keep talking about how late-deciders inevitably break heavily for the challenger. This is the one thing that has me worried.

I would simply consider the source, and let not your heart be troubled. Its in the bag.

And, welcome to FreeRepublic.

4 posted on 10/15/2004 10:52:31 PM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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The undecideds will essentially break in accordance with the President's job approval rating -- the single best predictor of a President's vote on election day.


5 posted on 10/15/2004 10:52:38 PM PDT by kesg
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Pat Cadell has said exactly the opposite is true in Presidential elections, as the undecideds go for the safe choice - the incumbent.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 10:52:56 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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I thought I heard Pat Cadell mention several times that undecideds usually break for the challenger, except in Presidential elections where they break for the incumbent.
8 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:12 PM PDT by jbarkley (America's light doesn't flicker, Senator Edwards, some people just close their eyes.)
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it's going to be a bush landslide. that's why ther have been no major kerry people on tv since the last debate.


9 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:15 PM PDT by go star go
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Libertarian Nationalist GOPr wrote: The dolts over at DU keep talking about how late-deciders inevitably break heavily for the challenger.

That's true for congressional races but not presidential races.

10 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:34 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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Can't say about the undecided. Sounds like they are grasping for straws. Don't think there are too many undecideds at this point anyway. either way...

I'm calling it for Bush

11 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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It's a good cover for voter fraud


12 posted on 10/15/2004 10:54:11 PM PDT by Nova
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"Is anyone else hearing this?"

What's the frequency, Kenneth?;)


13 posted on 10/15/2004 10:54:29 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation...... Proverbs 14:34)
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This is unconventional wisdom. It is congressional races that tend to break for challengers when the undecided vote exceeds the gap between the two candidates. In presidential races undecideds tend to vote for the incumbent (I remember this from poly sci classes in college). I would venture to guess that the actual CW of undecideds breaking for the incumbent would hold even truer in a time of war.


14 posted on 10/15/2004 10:55:00 PM PDT by Thickman (Regis to Kerry: "Is that your final answer?")
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LOL, hello obvious.

Troll.

Don't worry, November 2 is coming up fast, then you can all have a good cry when Kerry loses. Don't forget to stock up on the anti-depressants, you're gonna need 'em.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 10:55:15 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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16 posted on 10/15/2004 10:56:01 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (FR = A pajama party 24/7)
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This is a pre-9-11 phenomenon. The undecideds will break for the firm and strong on security and against the flip-flopper globalist. Bet on it.


18 posted on 10/15/2004 10:56:27 PM PDT by Zebra
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What, no replies to anyone?


19 posted on 10/15/2004 10:56:47 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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Yes, KESG has it right, the vote will pursue the approval rating.

More, Dales, believes the opposite is historically true, the undecideds break for the incumbent. Dales blog is very much worth your time and he frequently contributes to this forum. Dales also confirms the importance of the (Gallup) approval numbers.

Welcome aboard.


23 posted on 10/15/2004 10:58:56 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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25 posted on 10/15/2004 10:59:09 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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I was surpised at the support I have seen for Bush here in NC. Even my co-workers that one would expect to stay on the liberal plantation are fed up with the rich Kerry Ketchup-boy. Big (arrogant) money doesn't play well with folks that do a lot of service work.

/john

26 posted on 10/15/2004 10:59:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mmit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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The "undecideds break for the challenger" is mostly true in local elections. In presidential elections, undecideds usually break for the incumbent.

Al Gore surged late in 2000 not because of undecideds breaking for him, but because of the DUI thing. It's estimated that as many as 4 million evangelicals stayed home on election day because of that.

This time around, the evangelicals are pumped for Bush. It seems unlikely the Dems could pull off an "October Surprise" because Bush is a known quantity and they've been throwing the kitchen sink at him for 4 years.


34 posted on 10/15/2004 11:04:24 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Visualize Smaller Government)
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