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Huge asteroid to fly past Earth (Toutatis hoax - how and why)
space.com ^ | 04/09/29

Posted on 09/29/2004 5:00:09 AM PDT by Truth666

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To: Rebel_Ace
Now let's checkthe second "window of opportunity" ...
2. "...By early October, it will suddenly be re-emerging into northern skies as its apparent trajectory will bring it back into very favorable view..."
Again the same SUGGESTION technique is used :
by then the asteroid will be moving away from Earth and getting dimmer. It will quickly become "very difficult" to spot even with an 8-inch telescope, he said.
The reader is lead to believe that with a 8-inch+ telescope he will be able to spot it ...
21 posted on 09/29/2004 6:11:37 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

Hint: The sky that you see at night? It is NOT the whole universe. There is a WHOLE LOT of stuff visible from the Southern hemisphere only.

Ever see the Southern Cross? Alpha Centauri? No? Damn....neither did I. Guess they are a hoax too?

I don't suppose the idea of asteroid approaching the Earth from "the bottom" or Southern Hemisphere ever occured to you?

Jeez, dude, get your head out....


22 posted on 09/29/2004 6:14:17 AM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: Turk82_1

Since you are obviously not able to take part in a fact based discussion, I would suggest that you move to another thread.


23 posted on 09/29/2004 6:18:07 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Turk82_1
Ever see the Southern Cross? Alpha Centauri? No? Damn....neither did I. Guess they are a hoax too?

I've never seen George Bush or John Kerry in person. Maybe they're hoaxes, and the stuff on TV is a bunch of special effects.

24 posted on 09/29/2004 6:19:17 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Truth666
comet Bradfield (diameter : 10,000 km) popped out of nowhere to become the largest body ever recorded in the inner solar system

Two out of the four planets in the inner Solar System are bigger than 10000 km in diameter.

(Or maybe that's a hoax, too.)

25 posted on 09/29/2004 6:20:49 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: steve-b

It seems clear that "largest body ever recorded " is to be placed in the "popped out" context ...


26 posted on 09/29/2004 6:23:56 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

NEWSFLASH.... Even though the EFFECTS of air have been observed for millenia, the actual visual EVIDENCE of air has not been confirmed. We here at CBS News, via faxed scientific data from the Presumed Coalition of Air Non-Believers (PCAN) have concluded that air does not exist and never has.
This massive hoax perpetuated on the American public is believed to be the work of Karl Rove.

Dan Rather reporting...


27 posted on 09/29/2004 6:29:51 AM PDT by A Real Dan Fan... NOT
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To: steve-b
Two out of the four planets in the inner Solar System are bigger than 10000 km in diameter.

Ah, you must believe that the Earth is round.

28 posted on 09/29/2004 6:32:04 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Truth666

Nice try. What facts are you talking about? So far, you have not based any "hoaxation" on a fact.

Indeed, you have tried to distort a fact: Comet Bradford is NOT 10000km large. The actual cometary body, or head, is at most 10 miles large. The rest of the 'size' is its coma and dust cloud. And, since those particles have acheived escape velocity relative to the comet, they are considered independent members of the solar system.

Ever hear of C/2001 Q4 (NEAT)? Well, that was discovered, grew to magnitude 4, and faded. No big deal there. I never saw it....but then again the sky conditions were terrible for the two weeks when it COULD have been seen visually. But that does not mean it wasn't there.

And as for moving to another thread. Go Pound Sand.


29 posted on 09/29/2004 6:33:24 AM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: Truth666

Nice try. What facts are you talking about? So far, you have not based any "hoaxation" on a fact.

Indeed, you have tried to distort a fact: Comet Bradford is NOT 10000km large. The actual cometary body, or head, is at most 10 miles large. The rest of the 'size' is its coma and dust cloud. And, since those particles have acheived escape velocity relative to the comet, they are considered independent members of the solar system.

Ever hear of C/2001 Q4 (NEAT)? Well, that was discovered, grew to magnitude 4, and faded. No big deal there. I never saw it....but then again the sky conditions were terrible for the two weeks when it COULD have been seen visually. But that does not mean it wasn't there.

And as for moving to another thread. Go Pound Sand.


30 posted on 09/29/2004 6:34:07 AM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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To: Turk82_1

I saw the pictures of Toutatis...it should be named "TURD"-atis! Its the attack of the Space Feces...run for your lives!


31 posted on 09/29/2004 6:47:20 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Turk82_1
In the context of the Toutatis hoax, it is irrelevant what part of comet Bradfield is 10,000 km large :
- nobody was able to predict that a body with a VISIBLE round structure 10,000 km wide (and how many km of visible tail ???) would be approaching the sun
- while they want us to believe that they "watching closely" a body "about 2.9 miles long and 1.5 miles wide". So closely that they were even able to "see" ist "weird shape" ...
32 posted on 09/29/2004 6:58:10 AM PDT by Truth666
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Bradford originally started out at near ZERO (OK, the head was a few miles big). There is NO EXACT WAY to tell how big a coma will grow when a comet nears the sun. (remember Kahotek?) And a 10000 km coma does not spring up "in a few days". Both comets Hayutake and Hale-Bopp took weeks to grow their comas. So did Bradford.

The coma is ephemeral - as soon as the comet leaves the sun, the coma diminishes and disappears. The next trip, who knows how big it will get. When it comes to comets, "parts is parts" just does not hold.

And the strange shape of Toutais? That comes from radar studies of the comet by RADAR, not visual observations. The reason to "watch closely" is to detect the twinkling, variations in brightness that hold clues to the rotation and albedo of the asteroid, NOT to get a snapshot of the rock posing.

Tell me again....just what IS this "hoax" that you are trying to purport. One sentance. What do you think they are trying to say, and what do you think is the truth?


33 posted on 09/29/2004 7:33:12 AM PDT by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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Bradford originally started out at near ZERO - do you have a link to a table with a chronology of "distance to" and "size from" Bradfield, to check "how much did Bradfield grow" ?
the strange shape of Toutatis comes from radar studies of the comet by RADAR
How does that work ? What equipment is used ?
34 posted on 09/29/2004 7:47:20 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666
"...Now let's checkthe second "window of opportunity" ... 2. "...By early October, it will suddenly be re-emerging into northern skies as its apparent trajectory will bring it back into very favorable view..." Again the same SUGGESTION technique is used : by then the asteroid will be moving away from Earth and getting dimmer. It will quickly become "very difficult" to spot even with an 8-inch telescope, he said. The reader is lead to believe that with a 8-inch+ telescope he will be able to spot it ..."

Sir, I have provided links with ample information to point a telescope and CHECK FOR YOURSELF during the dates and times in question. Many public observatories are planning viewings. Why not visit one? They will even point the scope to the right place for you. If not, try a local astronomy club. They are more than happy to introduce people to the subject, especially with interesting objects to observe.

I do not know what particular bug is up your behind about this particular celestial object. Your objections seem somewhat irrational to me.
35 posted on 09/29/2004 8:05:39 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Truth666

So what was the hoax and who was the hoaxer?


36 posted on 09/29/2004 8:59:24 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Truth666
Again the same SUGGESTION technique is used :

Whats with all these "suggestions." Why dont you stick with what they say. If I said the scriptures suggested that Nero was the Anti-Christ (which they do) you would say I was crazy because then the second coming would have already occured. If you are going to broadcast HOAX, you ought to at least be clear what the hoax is, who the perpetrator of the hoax is, and why it is a hoax. You are as clear as mud. So what if it can only be seen near the Antarctic, last time I checked that was in the Southern Hemisphere. Did we have a polar shift last night that Im not aware of? Have you got nothing more important to bitch about?

37 posted on 09/29/2004 9:07:02 AM PDT by Dave S
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So what if it can only be seen near the Antarctic, last time I checked that was in the Southern Hemisphere.
There is nobody living south from 60° S.
38 posted on 09/29/2004 9:10:14 AM PDT by Truth666
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I do not know what particular bug is up your behind about this particular celestial object. Your objections seem somewhat irrational to me.

He wants it to hit the earth as the beginning of the "end times" so he can get raptured out of this unGodly place.

39 posted on 09/29/2004 9:12:05 AM PDT by Dave S
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There is nobody living south from 60° S.

Who are all those folks down in Antarctica? Are they zombies or space aliens?

40 posted on 09/29/2004 9:13:37 AM PDT by Dave S
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