Posted on 09/19/2004 12:21:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Nope. First he landed on a small island in the Bahamas.
Pickering's page on population:
http://www1.minn.net/~keithp/lclog4.htm
(alliteration ping)
Off topic, a bit, but why in the world did they draw that 3-d map with the cutout like they did? I'm thinking they sailed off the end of the world. . .
Probably to show the depth of the plant growth. Note also the blue arrow shown "in space" to indicate the direction of the current.
judging at the end of that discussion that the Plana Cays location has been scientifically proved.
I wouldn't say "proved"; just better supported by scientific evidence than other theories.
And yet, the island doesn't come close to matching Columbus' description. :')
Sure it does. In fact, every single island in the Bahamas comes close to matching CC's description: green, flat, surrounded by a reef, and with a large pond in the middle. Sounds very specific, until you actually try to rule out a Bahamaian island on that basis -- and find that you can't.
Molander may be deceased, I'm not sure.
Still alive, but quite infirm nowadays.
In any case, he's often cruised the Caribbean, and compared Columbus' log with the actual currently available possibilities.
As have Beecher, Morison, Roukema, Marden, Judge, Dunwoody, Peck, Verhoog, and many others -- who have reached no consensus.
I note "currently" because of the volcanic activity in the Caribbean, which could alter the landscape directly (eruption) or indirectly (tsunami).
No volcanic activity at all in the Bahamas. And although hurricanes and storms might affect some coastal features, such as beaches, there is one thing that remains constant even after 500 years: islands cannot move. Therefore, the most reliable indicators we have about the landfall are the distances and directions between islands (plus the lengths of coastlines) as reported by CC in his log. In evaluating these indicators, Egg Island does only average -- although where it fails, it fails miserably (distance to Cape Verde fix, distance from IV to I). Those theories that use Crooked/Acklins as Island II (Plana, Samana and Mayaguana) are way ahead of the pack.
judging at the end of that discussion that the Plana Cays location has been scientifically proved.
I wouldn't say "proved"; just better supported by scientific evidence than other theories.
And yet, the island doesn't come close to matching Columbus' description. :')
Sure it does. In fact, every single island in the Bahamas comes close to matching CC's description: green, flat, surrounded by a reef, and with a large pond in the middle. Sounds very specific, until you actually try to rule out a Bahamaian island on that basis -- and find that you can't.
Molander may be deceased, I'm not sure.
Still alive, but quite infirm nowadays.
In any case, he's often cruised the Caribbean, and compared Columbus' log with the actual currently available possibilities.
As have Beecher, Morison, Roukema, Marden, Judge, Dunwoody, Peck, Verhoog, and many others -- who have reached no consensus.
I note "currently" because of the volcanic activity in the Caribbean, which could alter the landscape directly (eruption) or indirectly (tsunami).
No volcanic activity at all in the Bahamas. And although hurricanes and storms might affect some coastal features, such as beaches, there is one thing that remains constant even after 500 years: islands cannot move. Therefore, the most reliable indicators we have about the landfall are the distances and directions between islands (plus the lengths of coastlines) as reported by CC in his log. In evaluating these indicators, Egg Island does only average -- although where it fails, it fails miserably (distance to Cape Verde fix, distance from IV to I). Those theories that use Crooked/Acklins as Island II (Plana, Samana and Mayaguana) are way ahead of the pack.
Wow! Hey, thanks for that. Imagine my surprise! Welcome to FreeRepublic!
Awesome!
All you would do is send him a private reply saying, "Add me to the list."
My mother doesn't have access to the Internet, so I read her some of SunkenCiv's articles once a week. (She's quite taken with Chinese history these days.)
Yes indeed. Ya just never know when a prominent guest might drop in on us here, eh? So SC, will you need to be recanting any of your, uh, catty remarks??? ;^)
FGS
Have fun!
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent
Hmm... Chinese, eh... ['Civ wanders off]
Fantastic! Welcome!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge on such an interesting subject.
Just adding my welcome to the others. My interests reside in the "gods" part of the thread. Never gave much thought to Columbus or where he first set foot. Nice to have experts check in to keep things interesting.
Great job attracting Pickering, if in fact you are responible. Just kidding.
10% of what: Electoral College (which even the 'Rats have figured out this year is the one needed to win) or popular vote?
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