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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?

A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the last thread we had a great time and were a great help to each other working through lessons and training, horse lamenesses and illnesses, questions and challenges and always just our stories we like to tell.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the last thread, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Hobbies; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bootsandsaddle; leatherharness; saddleclub
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To: tuffydoodle

Well, the horse I saw put down in old age (Cushings Syndrome) with drugs layed down real nicely. I attended him for a friend who couldn't bear to watch and I offered to be there in his place. I fed the horse an entire bag of carrots while we waited for the vet to come. It went so easy I decided then that when Bay's time came, I could bear it and wouldn't want to miss it if it went that well.

He gave him two different injections though, the first, the same level of sedative typically given for teeth floating and similar procedures where they will sedate them into a standing happy drunk. Then the second to put him down. Maybe that was missing in the cases you witnessed.

The part that has no dignity no matter what is disposal. I would not want to see the rendering truck come for any animal I love again.... I don't suppose I will want to watch no matter what. There is no dignified way to move a 1200 pound dead animal.


1,741 posted on 10/16/2004 10:15:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I had 2 horses picked up and buried by a pet cemetery. It was expensive but well worth it, in my opinion. It's called Pine Hill Pet Cemetery and they have a website, www.pinehill2.com if you want to look at it. Super nice people, very caring.

My vet put the horses to sleep exactly as you are describing. He said it was very unusual for them to fight that way but so far, it's all I've seen. They don't all go easy, so be prepared for anything.


1,742 posted on 10/16/2004 10:24:16 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: tuffydoodle

Thanks for the warning. My most beloved little dog didn't go easy, and that still haunts me.

I have enough land here, and the landlord used to own Bay, my horse, so I have considered that I might call a backhoe and bury him here if the landlord had no objection to that. I don't think he would. I should find out about it. I'll need to know one day.


1,743 posted on 10/16/2004 10:27:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: HairOfTheDog

If we had enough land here I'd set aside a section for a pet cemetery, I just don't have that much room. Oh, I also had a cat buried at Pine Hill.

I'm sorry about your little dog. Our pets can sure cause alot of heartache, can't they.


1,744 posted on 10/16/2004 10:32:37 AM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: HairOfTheDog

When the time does come, you will not be sorry, to bury him on the property. There are two buried here. A friend of mine has a backhoe. It was very sad, to see him drag the body, to the burial site. My Appaloosa gelding was very loud colored, and I always thought I would have liked to have the hide tanned. When it came down to it, I chickened out. I do feel bad, about running over their graves, when I mow the pasture thou.


1,745 posted on 10/16/2004 10:51:38 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Heelers are great dogs, very loyal and protective.

Yes, they are, but what a pain in the a&% around livestock. My SIl has one here. We always have to lock the dog up, when we work the horses. He has even gotten my lab, in the act of chasing. That scares me, because the lab is slower, and will get nailed someday. Heelers are only doing, what they were bred to do.

1,746 posted on 10/16/2004 10:59:52 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: HairOfTheDog

ROFL. Keep in mind that I read that while sitting in a dead quiet library. Oh the nasty looks I'm getting right now. But that story is worth it! So what kind of tigers does he have? I love large cats.


1,747 posted on 10/16/2004 11:05:45 AM PDT by Beaker (They're coming to take me away haha...)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Horses getting loose here is a big fear for me, because I am on a busy road.

One time at a competitive trail ride where the camp was by a highway, my mare thru one of her fits. Fell over, got up without me:) and ran out on the road. Of course I was yelling "run over the b#*h:) as I was trying to get my self back up.

Even tho my road is not a busy one, I worry about them being loose out there.

Back from my ride and I took lots of pictures, but will post them latter. We're going to mess around in town for a while.

Becky

1,748 posted on 10/16/2004 11:09:10 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: tuffydoodle; HairOfTheDog

If we had one die here, there is no way we could get a hole dug deep/big enough to bury one with all the rocks. Well we might get one dug, but there would be no dirt to cover it up.

Had a neighbor who had a horse die in their barn. They drug him out in the woods and piles brush on him trying to cremate him. They only succeeded in cooking him a bit. Everyone around here who had a dog landed up with bones in their yards. I'd probably just have to drag one out in the woods far from the house and leave it.

Becky


1,749 posted on 10/16/2004 11:16:28 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I've never heard that story. Wow, guess it takes all kinds:) Since I couldn't bury one, maybe I should try to find someone around here with tigers.

Becky


1,750 posted on 10/16/2004 11:19:49 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: MissTargets
Heelers are only doing, what they were bred to do.

Yeah. That's why I alwasy figured it was impossible to get her to stop. Instinct. I'll never have another, and now, not even a 1/2 breed.

Becky

1,751 posted on 10/16/2004 11:23:23 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (I have a plan......vote for Bush:)
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To: cowboyway
Beaujon This may sound cold, but you've got to prioritize. If the horse is more important than the house, make the sacrifice, buy a single wide trailer and keep the horse. Otherwise, sell the horse and be done with it. Cowgirl Up. (I think this is an example of compassionate conservatism) btw, I've been through a similar situation recently myself....you know....divorce and all that goes with it.

That isnt the issue. IF the house closes I have a place to keep the horse where I dont have to pay board. The house is an investment which will cut my expenses in half, give me a return, as well as a tax break, and a probable INCOME because I can use "Red" for lessons or lease.

If the house cannot close (and we are working on it with our lawyers now) then I am left having to pay board for two horses which in three months will leave me in winter with very few options.

I would not trade my shelter for a horse, I'm not am inbecile. I do not on the other hand want to sell a horse that I love who is TOTALLY bonded with his sister, my mare, who I also adore, as a result of panic---which is the state I am making decisions in now.

I know enough about "cowboying up" thank you and if it was a mtter of just sucking up the inevitable I wouldnt have written that post. What I am afraid of is making a Faustian bargain that in the short term may seem "correct" but in the long term might be something I might look back on with regret for the rest of my life.
1,752 posted on 10/16/2004 11:26:21 AM PDT by N. Beaujon
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To: HairOfTheDog

LOL. No I hadn't heard it.


1,753 posted on 10/16/2004 11:58:32 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Of course I was yelling "run over the b#*h:) as I was trying to get my self back up.
Hahaha. That's awful that she fell with you, though. Did she rear up and fall over, or just lose her balance in the middle of her fit?
1,754 posted on 10/16/2004 12:00:46 PM PDT by Beaker (They're coming to take me away haha...)
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To: tuffydoodle

The first school horse that I rode got hit by a car. She was huge and like 25 and had arthritis. She never had a chance. I really liked her too. I don't know what the owner did with her. I know they use a back hoe when cows die.


1,755 posted on 10/16/2004 12:01:37 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

A friend of mine had two horses get out in the small hours of the morning, and both ended up getting hit by cars. It was awful.


1,756 posted on 10/16/2004 12:07:43 PM PDT by Beaker (They're coming to take me away haha...)
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To: All

Bath day

1,757 posted on 10/16/2004 1:01:36 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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I can't believe how much this little guy has grown. He's full of his stuff now though and decided to give Okie a hard time while he dried. Wait til Okie gets him in the pasture though. Colts are his favorites. Better than dogs and cows:')

1,758 posted on 10/16/2004 1:05:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Cooking him a bit?? hahhahaha That is too funny. I can just see a toy poodle trying to drag a horse femur back to the house. My father in law drags his livestock out to the back 40 and lets the coyotes eat the horse/cow/pig whatever but they are on 300 acres in Abilene. No way I could do that, my neighbors would complain about the smell.


1,759 posted on 10/16/2004 1:21:37 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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Sarah Lee's turn. If it was her first bath then she did fairly well.

1,760 posted on 10/16/2004 1:23:53 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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