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To: notkerry
Last paragraph:
"According to one ABC News employee, some reporters believe that the Kerry campaign as well as the DNC were parties in duping CBS, but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition."
It's all Bush's fault.
5 posted on 09/11/2004 10:44:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I don't want to over simplify this but: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the DNC's mules and all the DNC's men, couldn't put Humpty back together again.

We've seen the passing of the campaign finance law; we now have unrestricted 527's; we now have MSM (having been challenged by the 527s) erupting in blatant partisanship. Our forefathers sought to protect freedom of speech and we have mostly benefited from their wisdom and efforts. But it's had its ups and downs. Over the past 30 years, the broadcast media and in recent times, their cable offspring, have trended so far from anything resembling an accurate representation of events that threatens the proposition of a free press.

I thank you for opening this free speech forum. And by the way, It's all the DNC's fault.

Best regards, Jack

15 posted on 09/11/2004 11:39:56 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

Take a look at this site. I was trying to find
the provenance of AFM 35-13 using google, and found the
sites below.

They are lefty sites, which refer to the documents
MONTHS ago.

August 2004:
http://www.talkaboutinvestments.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/messages/880901.html

April 2004:
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2004/04/21/who-da-man/

Feb. 2004:
http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/003279.html
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=3261

Which has this text:
Chris,

Yeah, this aspect of the story may die. But the media has a sense right now that there's stuff in the records that Bush doesn't want people to see, and they'll continue to follow that thread.

This document got posted over at Atrios's site, and it has a couple of interesting things. First of all, there was another guy (James Bath) who got suspended the month after Bush for refusing to take his physical. He's been linked to Bush before, but what interested me was this bit:

"Off[icer] will comply with para 2-1, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13."

Anyone know what this means? I assume it has something to do with the regulations they violated, but googling on the reference (and I also tried assuming that it means Air Force Manual) turned up nothing.

The words This Document are hypertext.
The words linked to Bush are hypertext, and lead to
this site:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

which contains the text:

Like his father before him, Dubya founded his oil business with the financial backing of investors, including James R. Bath, a Houston businessman whom Dubya apparently first met when they were in the same Texas Air National Guard unit. (Interestingly, both Dubya and Bath were both suspended from flying in August and September 1972, respectively, for "failure to accomplish annual medical examination.")

This is PRE Kerry, PRE election, even PRE 9-11-2001
smearing of Bush...
Could this be why Rather is saying the facts are genuine?
(Can't vouch for the authenticity of the allegations
about Bath. But they sure would make tempting material
for Rather to chance typing up a 'contemporary copy'.

Any thoughts?

Also, any way to save these sites so they don't disappear
down the memory hole?


16 posted on 09/11/2004 11:47:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"According to one ABC News employee, some reporters believe that the Kerry campaign as well as the DNC were parties in duping CBS, but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition."

I relish the thought that the rat media was set up by the Bush team.

17 posted on 09/12/2004 1:40:49 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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