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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

Take a look at this site. I was trying to find
the provenance of AFM 35-13 using google, and found the
sites below.

They are lefty sites, which refer to the documents
MONTHS ago.

August 2004:
http://www.talkaboutinvestments.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/messages/880901.html

April 2004:
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2004/04/21/who-da-man/

Feb. 2004:
http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/003279.html
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=3261

Which has this text:
Chris,

Yeah, this aspect of the story may die. But the media has a sense right now that there's stuff in the records that Bush doesn't want people to see, and they'll continue to follow that thread.

This document got posted over at Atrios's site, and it has a couple of interesting things. First of all, there was another guy (James Bath) who got suspended the month after Bush for refusing to take his physical. He's been linked to Bush before, but what interested me was this bit:

"Off[icer] will comply with para 2-1, AFM 35-13. Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13."

Anyone know what this means? I assume it has something to do with the regulations they violated, but googling on the reference (and I also tried assuming that it means Air Force Manual) turned up nothing.

The words This Document are hypertext.
The words linked to Bush are hypertext, and lead to
this site:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

which contains the text:

Like his father before him, Dubya founded his oil business with the financial backing of investors, including James R. Bath, a Houston businessman whom Dubya apparently first met when they were in the same Texas Air National Guard unit. (Interestingly, both Dubya and Bath were both suspended from flying in August and September 1972, respectively, for "failure to accomplish annual medical examination.")

This is PRE Kerry, PRE election, even PRE 9-11-2001
smearing of Bush...
Could this be why Rather is saying the facts are genuine?
(Can't vouch for the authenticity of the allegations
about Bath. But they sure would make tempting material
for Rather to chance typing up a 'contemporary copy'.

Any thoughts?

Also, any way to save these sites so they don't disappear
down the memory hole?


16 posted on 09/11/2004 11:47:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I looked at your site with reference to April 2004: People should check this out: This cite refrences a verbal order dated Septemebr 1, 1972 not the alleged forgery date of August 1, 1972 . Go see Bush's known valid records, he applied for transfer to flight unit on 9/5/72. He actually had approval to be at non-flight unit from 5/26/72 until 7/21/72 and apparenetly was not informed until 9/1/72 it had been over ruled in Denver. See link in above post.

Here is what was writtnen on the link you supplied:

Verbal orders of the Comdr on 1 Sep 72 suspending ist Lt george W. Bush ANGUS (Not on EAD) TX ANG, Hq 147 Flt GTp, Ellington AFB, Houston TX, from flying status are confirmed, exigencies of the service having been such as to preclude the publication of competent written orders in advance. Reason for suspension: Failure to accomplish annual medical examination. Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13 Authority: Para 2-29m, AFM 35-13"


19 posted on 09/12/2004 7:06:41 AM PDT by notkerry
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