Posted on 09/11/2004 5:56:56 PM PDT by The Bandit
Look at the justification of Kerry's Silver Star Citation that was written in 1969. A fake as well?
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Silver_Star.pdf
That's an excellent point.
Important documents would look like the Rather memo's, something that an officer would write for himself would not need to be as good.
It is perfectly right and left justified with no hyphenations. The chances are about zero that this was done with a typewriter.
As to the NAVAL HAMSTER CROSS: Now THAT is hilarious! How do you guys come up with this stuff?
Going after Kerry's awards is a shaky proposition without absolute proof. What if some not-so-flattering information was to come out about JF Kerry? That would be JUST as suspect as the citations (at least in the eyes of the MSM) & thus would be unusable at a later date. One must tread lightly...
If you look at it at 400% there are some oddities. It could be a relic of a bad copy, but some letters seem to be "enhanced". For example the small 'e' in the word intrepidity in the first line. Looks like upper part of the 'e' is more rounded, than the 'e' in the word 'while' three words later in the same line.
Further down, in the 18th line 'Upon sweeping', the two 'e's look strangely different.
Like I said, it could be a relic of the copier.
Is this you?
i think i know why the 2 different fonts in the dd214... i wonder if Kerry himself, did his own Name and date of birth and such and someone else did the rest.. or maybe a secretary in a different office did the personal data and someone else did the other data...
In my non-professional opinion, the Navy would have probably used a professional printer to create the Citations.
But a lowly National Guard officer typing memo notes to himself certainly would NOT have.
Probably best to let it go.
Depends on where the citation was printed. If it was done at a major headquarters they would have had typesetters, or at least good typewriters. It's the difference betweena Major award and a personal memo.
Dunno... but I heard some speculation that it was very strange that Kerry would have his DD214 "corrected" and reissued years later for some reason so I peeked to see if I could find anything funny about the original.
It definitely has two fonts and looks odd.
As I'm looking at those Kerry citations, I see two docs in one PDF file. The first one is from POTUS / Commander-in-Chief. The second one is from the Secretary of the Navy. You'll note that the Secretary of the Navy citation uses a typewriter. The POTUS citation is fully justified with proportional spacing and kerning, which probably means that it was typeset.
This begs the question - if the Secretary of the Navy uses what appears to be a traditional typewriter, what are the chance does an officer in the TexasANG had access to something better?
Why would a 1969 document be superior than a 1986 document in format? I am telling you all there is no way Hyman could have produced such perfect justification and 15 years later the justification is still inferior!
I'll bet this was produced in 1996 (explains the justification) so to remove the mention of Kerry shooting a kid behind a hootch, which he angrily had denied that ever happened that year. Who wants to bet me?
By the time we get into the period of photo engraving all things were possible.
We went from plate printing to offset litho circa 1973/74 due to some serious price changes for doing medium size jobs (USPS forms for use by the public ~ 100,000 to 250,000 copies per replenishment).
The composition costs actually went up. Reproduction costs went down. By 1979 I was able to get a complete DMM printed on newsprint for 75 cents a copy in quantities of 175,000. The Federal Register cost more because they had tighter deadlines (daily rather than semi-annually for a total production).
You should see the justified stuff we did back in the 1960s ~ it was great. Newspapers were a bit sloppy, but they used hot type.
Most awards I've seen are pre-printed forms where the dates and names are filled in by typewriter later. Not until after 2000 did I start seeing the name and text matching each other.
Of course, a Silver Star is a significant award which may merit the extra cost of a professional print job.
Because your premise is wrong. His is not the only citation that was typeset.
Why would the navy have Kerry's citation typesetted when they did not with any other's?Because your premise is wrong. His is not the only citation that was typeset.
Fine, find me a citation from any branch that matches the formating of the Hyman citation.
Sure, I'll take that bet.
Bandit, THERE IS NOTHING TO EXPLAIN. Justification was readily available in 1969.
It doesn't need to match. I only need to show that justification was common in that time period, and on this very thread an example of a 1969 citation has been provided to prove this.
And where it says discharge "HONORABLE", it's in the more modern font...
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf
Posts, 13, 23, and 30.
The samples no where come close to the formatting (spaces) of the Hyman citation.
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