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** ALERT! CBS "EXPERT coverup" may be more damaging…
What a Tangled Web we Weave
Posted on 09/10/2004 6:18:32 PM PDT by woodb01
And the PLOT THICKENS!!! Matley may have committed ethics violations, and defied HIS OWN PUBLISHED CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING DOCUMENT AUTHENTICATION!!!
Has Rather has gone completely looney. He has produced a HANDWRITING EXPERT that has a "non-standards" certification in document certification.
There is a damaging transcript from a hearing where another expert was being vetted by a court, and it exposes some very questionable information about Mr. Matley, Rathers "Expert" witness.
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Matley is a HANDWRITING EXPERT, who snuck in UNDER THE RADAR to get certified under NON-EXISTENT STANDARDS!
http://www.forensicdocumentexaminers.com/qdeindex.html
http://iwhome.com/handwriting/library/libw.htmCited on handwriting - note 5
http://www.experts.com/showArticle.asp?id=53
http://www.aspghandwriting.org/Matab.htm
One of the Courses Matley taught
1997 Vanguard Conference, Handwriting Physiology and Writer's Cramp, Marcel Matley
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When Matley became a "document" expert, there were NO STANDARDS for this, I guess, just claim you are, and then you are.
http://www.acandyrose.com/20020513cinawongdeposition.txt
Legal Transcript see in particular pages 0041 (starting line 17) 0043 (ending line 2)
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Matleys OWN TRAINING SUGGESTS THAT HE COULD **NOT** HAVE AUTHENTICATED THE DOCUMENTS WITHOUT IGNORING ALL OF THE GROUNDS HE HAS PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED FOR REASONS WHY THEY HAD TO BE FOUND TO BE QUESTIONABLE!! Does this make him a PAID FRAUD?? It certainly smacks of ethics violations!!!
http://www.blaisatty.com/family.htm#HELP IN SPOTTING A FORGED DOCUMENT.
Notice on this site how Matley WAS ALSO HOLDING HIMSELF OUT AS A DOCUMENT EXAMINER LONG BEFORE THE COURT TRANSCRIPT ABOVE SAID HE WAS EVEN "APPROVED" FOR CERTIFICATION!!! Notice in the first paragraph how he has held himself out as a document examiner since 1985, but during the hearing transcript above, HE WASN'T EVEN "CERTIFIED" UNTIL SOMETIME IN OR AFTER 1991!!
HEY! IM A DOCUMENT EXAMINER TOO!! WHERE TO I PAY MY DUES TO GET CERTIFIED??
On the area of Expert Witness testimony, I would consider myself "reasonably" qualified. I have written a successful legal brief on the subject, and as a non-lawyer, have helped a few psychologists see the error of their ways
See Objection to involvement by psychologist in court. Source material to prevent psychs as "experts"
http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/o/woodb01/psych/062803_Psych_obj.htm
Marcel Matley
Some Background info -
http://www.aspghandwriting.org/Matley.htmExpert Ambush -
http://www.sfbar.org/about/sfam/febmarch99.html#expertForensic Examiners ETHICS -
http://www.forensic.org/About.html
BY HAVING VIOLATED HIS OWN STANDARDS AND EVALUATION CRITERIA NOTED IN PARAGRAPH 3 ABOVE, HE MAY HAVE COMMITTED ETHICS VIOLATIONS!!!
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Text of a Deposition in relation to Matley
17 Q. Now, the second entry under Training
18 in your resume, and again I am still on page 2
19 of Defendant's Exhibit 1, you list again
20 International School of Handwriting Sciences.
21 And this time your CV tells us of your
22 completion of an advanced course in Questioned
23 Document Examination.
24 A. Uh-huh (affirmative).
25 Q. And according to your resume, this
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1 involved forgery detection, case studies,
2 hands-on equipment operation technique, and court
3 qualification procedures.
4 Have I accurately read your CV?
5 A. Yes, that is correct.
6 Q. How long was this advanced course?
7 A. I believe it was over four days,
8 three or four days. It was all day. Or it
9 was eight or ten hours. It was a very intense
10 course. 11 Q. And since Mr. Widmer has no
12 certification as a document examiner, I assume
13 this course was taught by someone else?
14 A. No. There is no standard in this
15 field where you need certification, but Mr.
16 Widmer has studied all the texts in document
17 examination, and he was the one that was
18 teaching the course.
19 Q. So Mr. Widmer taught the six-month
20 program in handwriting sciences as well as the
21 advanced course for three to four days in
22 questioned document examination; am I correct?
23 A. That is correct.
24 Q. Was there anyone that came in to
25 assist Mr. Widmer as a faculty member for those
0043
1 three to four days?
2 A. If my memory serves me right, I
3 think he had assistance from Mr. Marcel Matley.
4 Q. Can you spell that, please?
5 A. Yes, Matley, M-A-T-L-E-Y.
6 Q. Was Mr. Matley a certified document
7 examiner?
8 A. He is certified now through the
9 National Association of Document Examiners.
10 Q. When you say he is certified now,
11 does that mean he was not certified at the time
12 he assisted in teaching this course in 1991?
13 A. That is correct. But he is well
14 read in the field, and he is also well
15 published in the field.
16 Q. What has he published?
17 A. He has published an index that
18 covers all the articles that deal with document
19 examination. He has a book on sequential
20 handwriting. He has a book on forgery
21 detection. Quite a few others that I have in
22 my library that are all document examination
23 related.
24 Q. Now, in 1991, according to the next
25 entry under Training in your CV, you have
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1 experience or had a course of study in Signature
2 Identification also in San Francisco; am I
3 correct?
4 A. Yes, that is correct.
5 Q. And according to your resume, this
6 was a study of various techniques used to verify
7 signatures, recognizing different forms of forged
8 signatures, use of equipment to aid in
9 handwriting ID. Am I correct?
10 A. That is correct.
11 Q. How long was this course?
12 A. This course, I believe, it was three
13 days.
14 Q. Who taught that course?
15 A. That was taught by Marcel Matley.
16 Q. Were those full days?
17 A. Yes, definitely.
TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: dnccoverup; marcelmatley; mediabias; rather
Go through this carefully, there's STILL a story here. CBS brings in an expert, who violates HIS OWN CRITERIA FOR EXAMINATIONS, and who's specialty is HANDWRITING!
THEN, they try to bury this.
DON'T LET THIS DIE!!! EXPOSE THE DNCBS DIRTY TRICKS MACHINE!!!
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:18:33 PM PDT
by
woodb01
To: woodb01
CBS thinks they are out of the woods on this and I say they are only going in deeper....
It'll be fun to watch.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:21:41 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
To: woodb01
Is all of this going to feed even one hungry child?(/lib spew)
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:22:21 PM PDT
by
Mark
(Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
To: woodb01
Handwriting Services of California
CURRICULUM VITAE AND GENERAL RESUME
MARCEL B. MATLEY
DOCUMENT EXAMINER AND HANDWRITING EXPERT
BORN: Phoenix, AZ, September 21, 1933
SERVICES OFFERED:
- Handwriting authentication and signature verification.
- Identification of the maker of handwritten numerals
- Genuineness of logs, diaries, and other writings in series.
- Serve as either confidential consultant or testifying expert.
- Oral or written opinion, which can be a full, illustrated, written report to facilitate settlement or in the form of a declaration under oath.
- Question formulation to examine opponent's document examiner; also pertinent citations for cross-examination from learned treatises.
- Identification of the writer of poison pen letters and anonymous writings.
- Other aspects of questioned document examination.
- Impeachment of erroneous, incomplete or incompetent expert handwriting opinion.
CREDENTIALS:
- Certification with commendation, Paul de Sainte Colombe Center, January 28, 1981
- Awarded Charter Membership Certificate for professional excellence, Paul de Sainte Colombe Center, April 8, 1982.
- Consultant and mentor to other document examiners.
- Honorary membership, National Questioned Document Association, March 1992.
- Consulted by Texas Education Agency, Proprietary Schools Div. and other agencies.
- San Francisco Tax Registration Certificate. Expiration date: 12-31-95
- Activity Approval, Committee on Minimum Continuing Legal Education, The State Bar of California, March 27, 1995
EXPERT WITNESS:
- Accepted in Federal Bankruptcy Court and Superior, Municipal Courts, and Administrative Law Courts of California.
- Testimony in arbitration hearings and in depositions.
- Complete listing of testimonies available upon request.
CLASSES AND LECTURES:
- Private classes have been offered since 1981.
- Lecture series titles SEMINARS AND WORKSHOPS IN HANDWRITING SCIENCES, for professionals and advanced students.
- Organizer, co-producer and instructor at three annual SEMINARS IN DOCUMENT EXAMINATION, in San Francisco. Attendees came from across U.S. and Canada.
- Presenter at NADE Conferences and Pre-conferences: 1992: HUMAN GRAPHIC MOTOR SEQUENCE. 1993, two-day intensive course: THE PHYSIOLOGY AND FORENSIC IDENTIFICATION OF HANDWRITING. 1994: ANSWERING CHALLENGES OF VOIR DIRE.
- Presenter of Workshop, QUALIFICATIONS IMPEACHMENT, ABFE 1993 Conference.
- 1995 IGS-AFDE Joint Conference: A PROTOCOL FOR RESEARCH IN DISGUISED HANDWRITING AS ILLUSTRATED BY SLANT.
- 1995 AHAF Symposium: THE PHYSIOLOGY OF HANDWRITING, A HALF-DAY WORKSHOP.
LISTINGS:
- FORENSIC REGISTER OF EXPERT CONSULTANTS, Bar Association of San Francisco.
- Directories: INTERNATIONAL DIRECTORY OF HANDWRITING ANALYSTS; WHO'S WHO IN GRAPHOLOGY; and HANDWRITING ANALYSIS REGISTRY.
PUBLICATIONS:
- STUDIES IN QUESTIONED DOCUMENTS. 1. "Photocopies in Document Examination." 2. "Exorcism of Ignorance; a Reply from a Holographic Expert." 3. "Logged Entries: Made Separately or Sequentially?" 4. "Exemplars for (XXX)." 5. "Health and Handwriting, an Annotated Bibliography." 6. "The Employing and Examining of the Expert." 7. "Reliability Testing of Expert Handwriting Opinions." 8. "Signature Disguise by Change of Slant."
- FORGERY: DETECTION AND DEFENSE: A GUIDEBOOK FOR THE LEGAL PROFESSIONAL, 1988.
- QDE INDEX: PERIODICAL ARTICLES IN ENGLISH ON DOCUMENT EXAMINATION, HANDWRITING EXPERTISE AND EXPERT TESTIMONY.
- Also published in: AHAF JOURNAL; JOURNAL OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF DOCUMENT EXAMINERS; COMMUNIQUE, THE DOCUMENT EXAMINER'S NEWSLETTER; CALIFORNIA PARALEGAL MAGAZINE; AT ISSUE (San Francisco Association of Legal Assistants); WRITE EXTENSION; AHAA DIALOGUE: JOURNAL OF FORENSIC IDENTIFICATION; NATIONAL PARALEGAL MAGAZINE (Scheduled); VANGUARD; THE NATIONAL DOCUMENT EXAMINER; SAN FRANCISCO ATTORNEY; SCIENTIFIC SLEUTHING REVIEW.
- Other writings in the field, published and unpublished. The published books and monographs have been marketed to professionals nationally and internationally.
- Published works in other fields.
EDUCATION:
- Saint Francis College, El Cajon, CA 1952-54. Liberal arts, Science.
- Immaculate Heart Seminary, University of San Diego, San Diego, CA 1954-60. Courses included Philosophy, Logic, Rational Psychology, History, Rhetoric.
- Immaculate Heart College, Los Angeles, CA. MALS, June 1963
- San Diego State College, San Diego, CA, 1962-63. l Graduate studies, Political Science.
- 1979-80 Privately instructed by Rose Toomey, author of HEALTH CLUES IN HANDWRITING.
- Seminar on the handwriting of criminals, conducted by Ted Widmer of San Francisco.
- 1991 and 1992 National Conference of NADE, and other seminars and conferences.
- On-going research in the legal, forensic and academic literature.
- Primary research in methods of disguise, writing with the opposite hand, and others.
SPECIAL RESOURCES:
- Personal collection of more than 1500 books, monographs and papers in handwriting science and document examination, along with current subscriptions..
- Developed a computerized data base of approximately 4500 articles in forensic and legal periodicals. This is an on-going research project, covering 1870s to date.
- Memberships in NADE and AHAF bring access to extensive lending libraries of professional literature.
- Microphotography and optical filters.
- Optics such as stereoscopic microscope and other tools for close, accurate observation and measurement of questioned handwriting documents.
- Specialized equipment such as Kinderprint Indentation Materializer.
- Association with professionals having specialized skill and equipment so that unique or unusual requests can be referred to highly qualified colleagues.
MEMBERSHIPS:
- National Association of Document Examiners (NADE). Chairman of 1993 Conference in San Francisco. Committee memberships: Editorial committee for the Association's Journal.
- American Handwriting Analysis Foundation (AHAF), an international organization based in San Jose, CA. Foundation Librarian and member of the Board.
- Borrowing member of American Association of Handwriting Analysis Research Library, Downers Grove, IL.
- International Graphonomics Society, Society for the Science and Technology of Handwriting, headquartered at University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
- Vidocq Society, Philadelphia, PA.
- The American Society for Testing and Material. Committee E30 of Forensic Sciences.
- Participant, Crime Laboratory Proficiency Testing program of the American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors, Inc.
REFERENCES:
Professional references will be made available upon request.
(09-06-95)
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:22:40 PM PDT
by
Rome2000
(The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
To: woodb01
I'm sure CBS will defend their position regardless. They will practice the "Big Lie" defense and jam it down the publics throat. The Democrooks and their supporters (CBS) are morally corrupt as much of the major media has become. Thus we can expect no honest actions on their parts.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:24:35 PM PDT
by
Joee
To: woodb01
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:25:29 PM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
("Kerry-Edwards" or "Bury Vets' Words"? or "Verry Leftwards"?)
To: Rome2000
This guy has a shady past at best. Why, if SeeBS wanted to verify the legitimacy of the documents, would they go to someone who has a credibility problem?
Oh...I guess I answered my own question--they weren't look to authenticate the documents. They were looking for a way to appear to authenticate the documents.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:26:20 PM PDT
by
twntaipan
(CBS News: The News of Choice of Frauds and Forgers Everywhere!)
To: woodb01
wow. how did you find on that? nice work! I really think these Democrats (maybe republcians do this too) just get these witnesses and send them around doing their partisan bidding. Thanks to the Internet we can finally call them on it. A while back I was doing research on another 'expert' democratic witness. Remember Prof Lichtman, the Dem 'statistics expert in the Flroida recount?
this is from
http://www.neoperspectives.com/farenheight_911.htm
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Professor Lichtman, who knows that as a matter of scholarly convention such data should be shared, also declined to provide it. (144)
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Who is Professor Lichtman? Brief searches yielded some interesting results. He wrote an endorsement on the back of Bill Clinton's recent book, "My Life" (147). During a later redistricting dispute in Florida he was called as the main Democratic witness:
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The Legislature called two political scientists who challenged the logic and conclusions of the Democrats' top expert witness, Allan Lichtman, the history department chairman at American University. (146)
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He was also called as a Democratic witness in Arizona:
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But the Democrats had a statistics expert of their own. Professor Allan Lichtman, chair of the American University history department, cited studies that show the gap closing and called the year-old Commerce study obsolete. (149)
On January 14th 2004 he gave an interview with CNN:
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"Now you have George Bush coming along. His dad tried to get into space and failed. His dad didn't have the vision thing. So here is George Bush. He's not going -- he's now going to prove he has the vision thing that his dad didn't have." (148)
"He he's even going to top Kennedy. He's not just going to the moon, he's going to Mars. The problem is he doesn't want to make it hard. Where is he going to pay for it? Is he going to ask his rich buddies out there in corporate America to pony up and pay what could be a multibillion dollar price tag?" (148)
"What's on the table now won't do it. We needed that $5 trillion surplus that's has gone a glimmering and suddenly become a $500 million deficit." (148)
The other thing is there are lots of other goals that might be more relevant to life here. What about cutting fossil fuels by 50 percent? Or doing something about global warming or fixing up the electric grid? All those questions are going to be asked by George's Bush's critics. (148)
Professor Lichtman has a blog on the History News Network, which is filled with Bush bashing. A recent entry states:
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Today, a charge by John Kerry that the Bush administration was the most corrupt in American history would also engender widespread skepticism. Yet there is good reason to believe that such a charge is once again correct. (149)
Besides his partisanship, Lichtman also has a personal conflct of interest - his academic reputation. On CNN:
WOODRUFF: Well, whatever the poll numbers are showing these days, history may be on Al Gore's side in his bid for the presidency. Allan Lichtman, dean of history at American University, some years ago, created a system for predicting the outcome of presidential elections. I asked Lichtman to explain the 13 keys to the presidency and what they bode for this year's presidential hopefuls. (150)
WOODRUFF: Now, and you're saying it's been accurate every time you've applied these keys since 1984? (150)
LICHTMAN: That's correct. Well ahead of time, it has predicted the outcome of every election from 1984 to 1996. (150)
WOODRUFF: But having said that, the pluses for Al Gore, you're saying, far out -- or outweigh the negatives? (150)
LICHTMAN: The pluses narrowly outweigh the negatives. That's why Gore is going to win. (150)
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In sum, from the brief research I have done it is certainly suspicious that: 1. The commission based it's majority report on hidden research which cannot be replicated (as the work has not been shared). 2. The 'expert witness' who did this research seems to be a partisan Democrat. If the majority commission was truly looking to come clean in their investigations, their actions make little sense. 3. The minority report neglects to mention that Dr. John Lott, their statistician, is clearly a staunch Republican as seen by his website. (151)
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:27:13 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
To: woodb01
To: woodb01
Rush also mention the apparent conflict of interest precluded Rather from being anywhere near this story.
Rather's daughter is heavily involved with the Austin Democratic Party. Rather did a fund raiser for the democrats in 2001 at the request of his daughter. The head of the fundraiser was none other than Ben Barnes. Hannity was reporting earlier that the memo came from this Autin Democratic Party.
My personal gut feeling is that RATHER's daughter is the reason he is digging in for the long run. His daughter is involved big-time.
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:29:48 PM PDT
by
Republican Red
(We're going to win one for the gipper...they're going to lose one for the flipper)
To: woodb01
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posted on
09/10/2004 6:40:41 PM PDT
by
LiteKeeper
(Secularization of America ALERT)
To: woodb01
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