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Computer Help - 1.=Booting from CD-ROM" (w/AMD & Win98SE) 2.=Adding 2nd Hard Drive to Ribbon Cable
Asking for Computer Help! | 9/6/04

Posted on 09/06/2004 2:48:29 PM PDT by Computer Central

Hi - My PC clone has AMD-K6 & Win 98 SE

1. What changes do I have to make, (and how), to make my computer Boot from CD-ROM? I have a CD that has FreeSBIE / (FreeBSD) on it. When I am able to boot from the CD-ROM, then the FreeBSD is supposed to run the computer from the CD.

2. The ribbon cable that goes to the Hard Drive has that extra plastic connector in the middle of the cable. If I connect a 2nd hard drive to that extra connector, (also with the power connection), what else do I have to do to have two hard drives working together? Do I need a 'driver'? Do I need to go into setup? What might be the drive number or letter of this extra drive? ...Other steps..??

Note: I have three extra drives. I have been switching them around. Some work as C:\ - drive, and they all work as a D:\ Drive in place of the CD-ROM. I know how to connect the power connector & ribbon connector to make them work. I tried one of the drives in this 'extra' connector. It didn't work. I didn't take notes, but it was like the computer didn't 'see' it or 'read' it.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: boot; cdrom; computer; computerhelp; computers; harddrive; help; technical
Any advice and info would be appreciated. Thanks!
1 posted on 09/06/2004 2:48:32 PM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central

To get two drives to work together you must make sure that one is set as the "master" and the other the "slave" (not kidding!). This is usually a jumper setting. Typically the master is assigned the first drive letter.

If you want to boot from the "master" one day and the "slave" the next, you can easily change the boot order in the Setup (BIOS). IDE Drives (the kind you most likely are using) are assigned numbers 0-3, 0 being the first one (again not kidding. It is binary reasoning).

If you don't want to boot want to change the boot order in the BIOS there are ways to set-up multibooting on the main drive through software or clever installation techiques.

Another neat solution to multible Operating Systems is of course Virtual PC.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 2:58:53 PM PDT by BushCountry
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To: BushCountry

That is: If you don't want to change the boot order...


3 posted on 09/06/2004 3:00:06 PM PDT by BushCountry
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To: Computer Central
You will have to go into setup to make your computer bootable from a CD, (assuming your chipset supports it), by changing the boot order.
Usually the boot devices should be set to the following order:
1st 3 1/2 inch floppy
2nd CD Rom
3rd Hard disk

To add a second hard drive you should change the jumper settings on your drives to master and slave, the master drive will be your primary (boot) drive and the slave will be the secondary drive. Most drives will have a jumper diagram on them to show you how to change their position. Also if both your computer and your drive support cable select, you can set the jumpers on all of your drives to CS and they will work.. Master / Slave configurations will work in either case.
4 posted on 09/06/2004 3:00:45 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: BushCountry; HEY4QDEMS
I've been into Setup when I first start my computer; ?? press F5 , I think, at the right time when prompted.
** Can I get into Setup at any other time that I want??**
.. ~ Could I go to MS DOS prompt & get into Setup / BIOS?? = just curious..

1.= Boot @ CD = *1.- (assuming your chipset supports it) = I guess I just try it, & see if it works..?? Any easy way to check the chipset, in setup..?? Thanks again.

5 posted on 09/06/2004 5:22:45 PM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central
Hi - My PC clone has AMD-K6 & Win 98 SE

1. What changes do I have to make, (and how), to make my computer Boot from CD-ROM? I have a CD that has FreeSBIE / (FreeBSD) on it. When I am able to boot from the CD-ROM, then the FreeBSD is supposed to run the computer from the CD.

2. The ribbon cable that goes to the Hard Drive has that extra plastic connector in the middle of the cable. If I connect a 2nd hard drive to that extra connector, (also with the power connection), what else do I have to do to have two hard drives working together? Do I need a 'driver'? Do I need to go into setup? What might be the drive number or letter of this extra drive? ...Other steps..??

Note: I have three extra drives. I have been switching them around. Some work as C:\ - drive, and they all work as a D:\ Drive in place of the CD-ROM. I know how to connect the power connector & ribbon connector to make them work. I tried one of the drives in this 'extra' connector. It didn't work. I didn't take notes, but it was like the computer didn't 'see' it or 'read' it.

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first. change all hard disk jumpers to cable select
most main boards handle up to 4 ide's
install the one(s) you want in the order you want them...reboot
second. go into setup and set the order so that CD is first in order to start, hard drive second.
Then while in setup have setup autosearch your harddrives...when finsihed press F10 then Y.
Third. the CD should start your computer

8 posted on 09/06/2004 5:52:53 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: Computer Central
If your computer is a PC clone, boot it up, when prompted, usually right after memory count, press delete, that will get you into setup
Could I go to MS DOS prompt & get into Setup / BIOS?? = just curious....NO.
11 posted on 09/06/2004 6:39:35 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: All

For some reason, I had 5 multiple posts. They're deleted now.

Thanks for the info. Time to give it a try.


13 posted on 09/07/2004 4:29:31 AM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central
In addition to the pure hardware approach, VCOM has a software package "Partition Commander" version 8 , that will assist you in setting up and booting multiple operating systems and moving operating systems to new and larger disks. Handles all windows , Linux ext2 and ext3 and ReiserFS file management schemes...
14 posted on 09/07/2004 2:29:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Computer Central

If you are a novice on Linux/Unix and wanting to learn it, I would suggest a book,"Sams Teach Yourself Red hat Linux....Fedora in 24 hours ...that includes CD's with Fedora Core1. It will build a running system on disk where you tell it to. And you can get pretty far in web browsing without working thru all of the commands.


15 posted on 09/07/2004 2:35:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS; BushCountry; Gone_Postal; Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

#4 = bootable from a CD, =>> (assuming your chipset supports it) <<=

FYI – I got into BIOS / Setup, - so far, it won’t boot from the CD. I’m getting a disk error… Previously, the CD drive has been working fine.

** =>> assuming your chipset supports it ** How do I know if my chipset supports it?
(In Setup, I looked at a section concerning the settings for the “Chipset”. Can I make any ‘adjustments’ there?)

Thanks for any info.


16 posted on 09/15/2004 12:32:57 PM PDT by Computer Central
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To: Computer Central

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html#INSTALL-SYNOPSIS


17 posted on 09/15/2004 7:26:21 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: Computer Central

  = From July 2003 =

  First there are a couple of computer links; and next there is some humor and inspiration quotes; and last several FReepers listing their computer related skills and interests, that could be use to organize a FR computer help.

optimistically_conservative  =  For Computer Chat here on FR, try this Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/t-computers/browse
I bookmarked this posting and found it very useful for organizing and managing threads using the sidebar: The Ultimate Sidebar Management Thread
You also probably already know how to modify your subscriptions.
(Note: This info from July 2003; - it may, or may not still work...?)
= = =
  Bloody Sam Roberts  = 
Computer Central is a great idea. Keeps it all in "the family" so to speak. Advice from trusted sources is always appreciated.
Since you asked, here's a link to a great site that has helped me countless times. The denizens there are knowledgeable and responses to questions are always swift and plentiful.

For Computer Help, Click Link:   Computing.Net


    (an excerpt from a recent FR computer help thread...)
Think millions of people downloading "free" stuff at the same time...
Contrary to mindless assumption, the internet is finite.

5 posted on 06/11/2007 9:31:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)


6 posted on 06/11/2007 9:59:04 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)

("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)   by Tax-chick

...just saw this sign in someone's living room: (something like...) "Faith: makes it possible, not easy".


To: Rodney Dangerfield
It’s ironic, but every Atheist I know believes in Ghosts, UFO’s, Karma

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing - they believe in anything."

G. K. Chesterton

26 posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:55:12 PM by SkyPilot

(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)   by Cvengr
89 posted on December 09, 2008   Man who lost family when jet hit house: Pray for pilot
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145932/posts



7 posted on 06/11/2007 11:04:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)

To: martin_fierro

LOL!!

I am still unable to download the latest definitions as I keep getting these server busy messages.

Gee, I thought everything was easier with high speed internet. Not!!

8 posted on 06/12/2007 10:20:04 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Joilet girl)

Computer help info from my page: = From July 2003 = (needs to be updated / revised ~ 3-07)
= = =
  chance33_98  =   =  My basic skills are ccna, solaris, linux, windows, data bases (oracle, mssql, etc), PERL, various other programming languages, html (non-flashy thank you), and a whole host of other things.
Perhaps CompCent needs its own ping list for assisting others. Many varied geeks out there like myself, and each has a different expertise. A general pinglist would be good. Perhaps, if your so inclined, keep a list of freepers on your FR profile page with a link to their page/mail and give a brief overview of what each is best at (so as to avoid mass mailings of MAC questions to unix folks).
I prefer to do my own development and mainly for myself (mainly things of a mathematical bent or data grabbing) but if someone needs something I would consider helping out (example, a little perl script to port all the names of anyone who responds to you from a thread and auto-create a nice ping list ;) I have enough stress writing some things for myself but am willing to help out fellow freepers if time permits (i have a two year old at home....)
So there is my info if things get going feel free to put me down as someone willing to lend a hand - ALSO let me add this - I have web space available for those who need some pics hosted. Have also been working on a simple script to allow someone to email me a photo, it will drop it into their directory, and then email them a link to it (for the html/computer impaired). I won't have that running online until I move in a few months and get new dsl service (have it now, but want to make sure I have same carrier etc - basically I am too lazy to reconfig it all once it is done ;)

Let me know if you need help stripping out names and such. A ton of ways to do it (like save the source and grep/sed/awk) or a full fledge perl script to navigate to the page(s) and do all the work from start to finish. I am going to be wrapped up most of this week (my long work week, 5 nights of 12a-12p) but I usually spend most my nights at work either freeping or studying (the servers run fairly well there, out of 400+ I only avg 1-2 down ones a week).

If you're running windows on a desktop look into cygwin sometime, pretty slick (Cygwin is a Linux-like environment for Windows) Lets you do grep/sed/awk/etc and so on (better than using MS's toolkit for unix, on which I have posted articles previously). There are a zillion things out there, and it is good to see so many people here with varied experience and knowledge. I have a lot of gaps, good to see them filled in! :) - by chance33_98
= = =
  Search4Truth  =  Thanks for the resource. And welcome to FR.
I am a 25-year retired computer professional. I am at your service.
= = =
  Rocketman  =  I'm a college student recently received as AS in MSSP and Net+ Cert -- I have a sun ultra 66 at home it is like new a former UAF (university of alaska fairbanks).
= = =
  MississippiMan  =  I've written many articles that were published in several of the large computer magazines, I do general consulting, and I'm presently going through a program to become a certified Computer Forensics Examiner. I'll try to keep an eye on these threads and jump in when I can help.
= = =
  Dave in Eugene of all places  =  ...Tandy laptops, - Ham Radio operators for packet terminals...
= = =
  Quix  =  Am personally looking for a programmer to write software to play a game interactively over the net such as through MSN Messenger or other sort of instant functionality. The game is essentially a board game more complicated than checkers but not quite as complicated as chess though similar in many respects. I have friends all over the world who enjoy playing the game. Am trying to find a trustworthy, compatible programmer to hire who would quote some prices so I can secure suitable remaining funding. If you are or know such a person, please FREEPMAIL me. Blessings, Quix (...July 2003)



= = =
  Publius6961  =  Funny you should post this. I am about to go cable and wireless and would love input from others who have done it already. What are the caveats and pitfalls? Are some router companies more reliable than others? Is it possible to have a wireless LAN/Internet setup? So many questions... so little time (...July2003)
= = =
  To: Publius6961 = What are the caveats and pitfalls?   Wireless claims of range (300 ft., etc.) are bogus. With luck you'll get 75 feet. Encryption shortens the range, and believe it or not, can cause laptop wireless cards to overheat and shut down. If you aren't doing anything illegal, you might skip wireless encryption and set your access points up to talk only to each other. This is done by specifying the MAC addresses they will talk to. This function will probably require searching through all the menu choices during setup, since it is seldom well documented.
- by js1138
= = =
  Xthe17th  =  While we're on the subject of old computers, I hear that Rotary Club sponsors some sort of program that collects and refurbishes old computer equipment/software for schools/the needy. Being that I have a closet-full of one of each (Tandy, 286, 386SX, 486, early Pentiums, laptops, monitors, drives, disks, manuals, etc., etc) just collecting dust and taking up space, I'd like to know. Hey, they're good for simple games and the 386 on ups work for light typing and spreadsheet use. I even used to do AutoCad and engineering work on the later models. FUND-RAISING IDEA: Perhaps we can assemble our own list of old FReeper equipment and sell it for cash - proceeds half to FR and half to charity? We'll need to also put together a volunteer list of aplicable tech skills. LMK,...

  To: Xthe17th = Our local schools have very strict standards on donated PC's because of maintenance costs. They don't want to become a dumping ground for old computers and spend lots of money trying to keep them running. It costs less than $300 to build a good computer so resale values aren't very good on old ones.   by   AppyPappy

  To: AppyPappy = Yep, but the oldies are good for young kids to play with. A good learning experience. Probably learn more just trying to repair them... a cheap technical indoctrination, IMHO. (learn about electronics, basic computer structure, can open up drives/floppies to study mechanisms, etc.) Somewhere around here I have an old 8088 chip cut-open and encased in clear lucite.
Children are sponges. Inquiring minds want to know. my 2¢ -  by   Xthe17th


Nick Danger  =  (DOS History) |     ThePythonicCow  =  (DOS Downloads) |     JoeSixPack1  =  ?? DOS, etc.

(Other names on original thread):
DeaconBenjamin;   evilC;   Caesar Soze;   lorrainer;   js1138;   MissTargets;   RedWing9;   baseballmom;   yay;   PatrioticAmerican   brbethke;  

[Above Info From July 2003]


18 posted on 02/13/2009 2:23:16 PM PST by Computer Central
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