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Hurricane Frances
NHC | 08-31-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 08/31/2004 12:50:42 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Edited on 08/31/2004 4:05:13 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: dennis1x

The winds are actually faster as you increase altitude. The surface winds fortunately suffer from drag by contact with the ground and sea and don't go as fast as winds 100s of feet up.

It's generally the storm surge that does the real damage. The storm surge from a landfalling cat 4 can be as much as 10-20 feet.

Fortunately CHARLEY didn't get fully formed before it reached land and had only a 6-8 foot surge. We had about 4 feet 70-80 miles south of landfall.


41 posted on 08/31/2004 1:04:32 PM PDT by snooker (Looks like the Swifties snookered the dims ...)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Please change thread title to Category 5 Flight Winds.


42 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:03 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Memo from Florida:

LIGHTEN UP, FRANCES!

43 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Snowy

He does use a big hammer.


44 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:18 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Cat 5 = "Finger of God" territory.


45 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:24 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kerry Kool-Aid: Changes flavors with every sip.)
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To: The_Victor

You are going off of 2pm data..I was going off of Vortex Recon in the last hour.


46 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:57 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: dennis1x

Yeah, it recently went through reorginzation which isn't really good news. All satellite pictures indicate healthy outflow as well.


47 posted on 08/31/2004 1:05:57 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: js1138

I live in Pasadena TX, a town outside Houston. I know the games these people play.


48 posted on 08/31/2004 1:06:31 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
THIS A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR/SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

No weather service has categorized this as a cat 5. You may have jumped the gun a bit...

49 posted on 08/31/2004 1:06:54 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: My Favorite Headache
This is a bad combination...
 
Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

50 posted on 08/31/2004 1:06:59 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel ("Fire can be our servant, whether it's toasting S'mores or raining down on Charlie" –Principal Skinn)
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To: dennis1x

Statement from Max Mayfield just released:

What we don't have a great deal of confidence with is if it's going to continue to go west-northwest into South Florida or start bending a little more toward the northwest," Mayfield said from the center near Miami.
"I'm afraid that even Thursday we're not going to have the definitive answer. The message pretty clearly here is that at this stage of the game, the bad news is we have a major hurricane headed in our general direction."

"We may have to go through the drill without knowing where it's going to hit," Mayfield said. "At this stage, it certainly looks like Florida will be impacted."

Courtesy

Eliot Kleinberg

Palm Beach Post


51 posted on 08/31/2004 1:07:34 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: dennis1x; Crazieman

Is the scale related to wind speed, or barometric pressure, or both..and are the two directly related..i.e. if a storm has a really low pressure count, will the winds always be high?


52 posted on 08/31/2004 1:07:40 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: ken5050
Is the scale related to wind speed, or barometric pressure, or both

Wind speed, although it is mostly indicative of how destructive the hurricane would be if it were to make landfall.

53 posted on 08/31/2004 1:08:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: Pyro7480

"My friends call me 'Psycho'! You call me Frances... I'll kill ya! You touch my stuff... I'll kill ya!"


54 posted on 08/31/2004 1:09:40 PM PDT by go-dubya-04
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To: ken5050

yes...wind and pressure correlate relatively well....it may take one a couple hours to catch up with the other.

the official scale rankings are based on sustained surface winds only.


55 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:05 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: dfwgator

Lighten up, Francis (please)


56 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT by Hoboken (N.J. is In Play)
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To: ken5050

They're related and affect each other, but a specific pressure does not always mean a specific wind speed.

The more the pressure is lowered, the quicker the surrounding air will try to rush in and fill the void. Of course the coriolis effect sets it spinning.


57 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:22 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: My Favorite Headache
BOHICA!
58 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:24 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: ken5050

yes, yes, yes, yes


59 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:38 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Pyro7480

Holy crap. Look at that eye.


60 posted on 08/31/2004 1:10:56 PM PDT by Catspaw
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