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My title: 72 Virgins Mis-translation?
Austin Chronicle ^ | August 27, 2004 | Mr. Smarty Pants

Posted on 08/28/2004 5:48:31 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

According to author Christoph Luxenberg, due to a possible mistranslation of the Koran (if one were to read certain words as Syriac instead of Arabic), the "virgins" some terrorists believe they will be rewarded with in paradise may be "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" instead.


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KEYWORDS: 72raisins; 72virgins; 72whiteraisins; islam; muslims

1 posted on 08/28/2004 5:48:31 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

I had heard this several years ago. I wish there was a way to tell all of the jihadists what is waiting for them.


2 posted on 08/28/2004 5:50:07 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Hopefully its' 72 Helen Thomas's or Bea Arthurs' or Bela Abzugs'


3 posted on 08/28/2004 5:54:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: wagglebee

Jihadists get two Boogers, some used toilet paper, my Ex-wife's golf clubs (that I bent up), and 25 cents to call someone that gives a crap.


4 posted on 08/28/2004 5:55:48 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

 "I heard it in the Koran.

Whoo hoo I heard it in the Koran."


5 posted on 08/28/2004 5:56:37 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
It's 72 virgin daiquiris.
6 posted on 08/28/2004 5:57:12 PM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( ° ¿ ° )_oooo_____)
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To: SandRat

Actually heard a terrorist spokesman (PLO) talking about wanting to die a martyr and recieve his 70 virgins. Yes he said 70, I remember the number struck me as strange.


7 posted on 08/28/2004 5:57:36 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Proud to be a FReeper)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
The whole Koran is a mistranslation of the Bible. Those who claim that muslims pray to the same god as Jews and Christians ignore the Mohammed rewrote (or was "handed") the Bible rewritten to suit his whims.

Islam is an "anti-Christian" religion even if Mohammed was not THE anti-Christ. It is designed to lead the flock away from Christ in the name of good. Jews deny that Jesus was divine, they are still awaiting the first coming. Muslims acknowledge some significance in Jesus but deny the divinity (that He's the Son of God) and the resurrection (without it we are all doomed). If Jesus is not who He said He was, then He was a liar/fraud and a false messiah. If He was God incarnate then it is the single most important event in human history. I don't buy Mohammed's "claim" that the Bible got it wrong.
8 posted on 08/28/2004 6:00:20 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: ProudVet77

lost two in taxes to Ted and John


9 posted on 08/28/2004 6:08:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

So the reward is 72 crystal raisins?


10 posted on 08/28/2004 6:31:06 PM PDT by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: SandRat
Hopefully its' 72 Helen Thomas's or Bea Arthurs' or Bela Abzugs'

No, no, no. Virgins...

11 posted on 08/28/2004 6:31:56 PM PDT by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: weegee
Not quite ~ Mohammad never received a complete copy of even a single Gospel. This was the Dark Ages, and at best he had partial transcripts of New Testament Letters, possibly the Book of Proverbs (although not in Aramaic or Hebrew), and maybe chunks and bits of a Torah buried hundreds of years before somewhere in the vicinity of Mecca.

The "72 Virgins" story is NOT PART OF THE KORAN. Instead, it is in an Hadith, and these items are simply stories about the life and times of the Prophet. Many of them were made up for political purposes, or inheritance (the prize being the Islamic state ~ see Shia).

No Christian should place great faith in the reliability of any Hadith! Few reflective Moslems do. Most folks, though, keep their mouths shut because there are these ignoramuses out there who will kill you for criticizing the Koran or the Hadiths.

The "72 Virgins" story is one of the more questionable items in the collection.

12 posted on 08/28/2004 6:38:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
With the way the martyrs like to die, I would be surprised if it was 72 surgeons.
13 posted on 08/28/2004 6:43:22 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: muawiyah

I've more than "hadith" with these terrorists using their weird beliefs to justify heinous crimes...


14 posted on 08/28/2004 8:16:59 PM PDT by mikrofon (Give them their 'Tickets to Paradise')
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
I was told that the Jihadists have mis-interpretted it.

According to my sources, it's actually a single 72 year old virgin.

15 posted on 08/28/2004 9:12:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I heard it was 72 Virginians!


16 posted on 08/29/2004 5:58:52 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

The koran claims it's clear and easy to read/interpretate, so there can be nothing wronly mistranslated according to billions of muslims since 1400 years.

It would be a shock to the jihadies if they went to paradise to get their virgins and get raisins instead lol.

The thing is the koran also promises other things to come with the virgins/raisins, namely young boys (as beautifull as pearls) to serve you and a bunch of slaves too.

Also sura 44:51-55 describe what you can expect there:

http://www.universalunity.net/quran4/044.qmt.html

Or sura 55:70-77

http://www.universalunity.net/quran4/055.qmt.html

No raisins. He looks too much to the word and not to the rest of the koran.


17 posted on 10/19/2004 11:38:35 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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