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1 posted on 08/15/2004 8:39:39 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: codyjacksmom

pinging...


2 posted on 08/15/2004 8:41:26 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
I drink, I smoke, and I still suck my thumb (at age 56).

Drink more. Smoke more. Then, you won't have time to fit your thumb in there.

No charge.

3 posted on 08/15/2004 8:43:13 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigitte Bardot.)
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To: The Other Harry
I still suck my thumb (at age 56)

You're not alone.

4 posted on 08/15/2004 8:51:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Humor me.)
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To: The Other Harry
How's your naked FReeping coming along?

Dude. Seek help.

5 posted on 08/15/2004 8:54:17 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Humor me.)
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To: The Other Harry

Keep drinking and smoking and pretty soon you won't have to worry about the third item... or the first and second.


6 posted on 08/15/2004 9:13:53 PM PDT by thoughtomator (antidisestablishment libertarian)
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To: The Other Harry

at age, 30 my only vices are FR and smoking, i dont drink or suck my thumb ;^)


7 posted on 08/15/2004 10:58:17 PM PDT by Remington Rebel
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To: The Other Harry
TOH...try this to help get your sleep cycles back on track. Any brand will do, but try for the best to assure standardized potency. It is not expensive.

Melatonin (N-acetyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine) is a key metabolic hormone produced by most living creatures, that has been extensively researched for more than 30 years. The pineal gland, which governs sleep cycles, uses it to communicated with cells throughout the body.
As for the thumb sucking...wear gloves..;-)
10 posted on 08/16/2004 2:47:24 AM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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To: The Other Harry
Here's a good thread on drinking, or trying to stop.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188835/posts
I am the same, if I do not drink I have trouble sleeping.
12 posted on 08/16/2004 11:33:36 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: The Other Harry

Harry you old dog!

For sleeping try this trick: take 2 generic benedryl 1 hour before you want to go to sleep. 1/2 hour later go to bed and read (or write poetry or cheat on your taxes, etc.) for 30 minutes and turn the light out. You are linking the feeling of being sleepy with a specific place and routine. Do it for a week or so and then go to 1 pill for a week or two, then none.

You won't get a substitute addiction with this but you might get cotton-mouth.

For the smoking, just get it down to 3 or 4 cigs a day and take the herb Lobelia. Leave it there for a few months and THEN decide what you want to do. Knowing you can have a few smokes should get rid of that fuzzy brain feeling and getting down to that point is actually 95% of the battle.

Now I DO know what you are doing thumbwise since a good friend of mine does it. I agree - leave it alone.

Health freaks always want you to do everything immediately. What nerve! Get 80% of your problems 90% solved and you are WAY ahead of the pack.

Good Luck!


13 posted on 08/16/2004 12:47:04 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: The Other Harry
I have dealt with all this with the possible exception of thumb sucking. I took on the drinking first since it was messing up my life the most. I too has terrible insomnia. Over the counter sleep aids did not help and melatonin was a joke. I finally got a perception for Trazadone which is one of the old tricyclic antidepressants. I took about 50 mg. per night and it worked well. It has no history of addiction and is much safer than most perscription sleep meds. I have a very long history of insommia starting from chilhood. Trazadone is the only thing I have ever found that helps

As far as smoking goes I did a ton of nicotine gum. I used a lot more than the prescribed dose and I chewed it for a lot long than the schedule said. After I felt I had the psychological addiction under control I weaned off the gum. This is not the recommend course of behavior but I had a very high nictoin intake and was very tied into it emotionally. I found the 4 mg. dose ever 1 to 2 hours way to low to start with.

AA likes to make a big to do about prescription drugs and alcoholics. I think a lot of what they say is sweeping generalizations. I have never taken a drug that made me want to drink. Of course that all varies with the individual. I just don't take what the group says as holy writ. I would just make it a point to stay away from prescription tranquilizers. They are very hard to get off of and doctors love to hand them out to people doing alcohol withdrawal.

14 posted on 08/16/2004 5:30:25 PM PDT by foolscap
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To: The Other Harry
I don't suck my thumb, so I can't help you there. None of my three kids were thumb suckers, either. Sorry!

Over the years, I've gone through periods where I have drunk very heavily and steadily, then just stopped, and suffered no ill effects. Now I drink occasionally, maybe five or six beers a week, with a bender thrown in every few months. I know I could walk away from it forever with no problem. I never had a drop during pregnancy. Have you tried getting pregnant? That could help. You'll be so exhausted you can't help but sleep. Oh wait...you're a guy.

Nope! Can't help you there, either. I'm on a roll now.

As for smoking, I have been a pack-a-day smoker since I was sixteen, more than half of my life. I have tried everything but hypnosis in my quest to kick, to no avail. Having pins stuck all over my face made me smoke more than ever. Wearing a patch while smoking gives an interesting little buzz. The gum made me barf, which made me want to have a smoke. I took Zyban for about a month, and that actually worked. I did quit smoking. I also quit eating and sleeping. I spent most of my time wandering aimlessly through the house, crying incessantly, wishing I were dead.

Upon my doctor's advice, I quit using Zyban and resumed smoking. I did manage to cut back to five smokes a day while I was pregnant (again, no help to you) but I've never managed to go longer than 8 hours without a smoke. I even snuck out of the hospital during labor for a quickie.

If you can think of any way to help me quit smoking, let me know. I hate smoking. I hate the taste, I hate the smell, I hate the expense, I hate eating food and no longer being able to taste it. I'm down to pure addiction at this point. There is absolutely nothing pleasurable about it anymore.

15 posted on 08/17/2004 9:03:22 AM PDT by grellis (A! Elbereth Gilthoniel!)
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