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weave09

Posted on 08/11/2004 12:26:49 PM PDT by weave09

Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong area, I am not new to FR but haven't posted much. A group of my friends are going on a golf trip. There are 12 golfers playing 4 rounds of golf as foursomes. I have been asked to come up with a schedule that has each golfer playing at least one round of golf with the other eleven golfers. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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To: weave09

This seems quite easy (which means I'm sure I'll get it WRONG!). Each golfer is a number, 1 through 12. Assign these 12 golfers the following group numbers:
1. A, a, a, a
2. a, b, c, d
3. a, c, d, b
4. a, d, b, c
5. b, b, b, b
6. b, a, c, d
7. b, d, a, c
8. b, c, d, a
9. c, c, c, c
10.c, a, b, d
11.c, b, d, a
12.c, d, a, c

What did I win? Everyone plays with different person, each day.


21 posted on 08/11/2004 12:58:56 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: socal_parrot

No, they want to be assured that each one would play at least a round with the other eleven.


22 posted on 08/11/2004 1:00:12 PM PDT by weave09
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To: Shryke
which means I'm sure I'll get it WRONG

Sad to say, but you did. Golfers 1, 5, and 9 never play each other, for example.

23 posted on 08/11/2004 1:01:05 PM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: Shryke

CRAP! An error. I'm reviewing it, I think I am close.


24 posted on 08/11/2004 1:01:42 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: socal_parrot
Pairing the golfers as twosomes and rotating the twosomes in the foursomes almost get you there, but not quite.

It would work with a 5th round...

25 posted on 08/11/2004 1:04:02 PM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: weave09

I suggest that after the first round you always pair-up the winning golfers, second place finishers, third place and fourth place from the previous round.

That way every group is broken up each round but you will start with 4 threesomes and end up with 3 foursomes.


26 posted on 08/11/2004 1:05:42 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: sharktrager
Care to try that again in English?

Not really.

Ironically, I was installing a foreign language disk at the same time.

27 posted on 08/11/2004 1:06:34 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." FirstIAmAUSSoldier and I approve of this message...)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
He's a she.
28 posted on 08/11/2004 1:07:52 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." FirstIAmAUSSoldier and I approve of this message...)
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To: 1smallVoice

I meant you would start with 3 foursomes and end with 4 threesomes.


29 posted on 08/11/2004 1:08:27 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: kevkrom

Hrmph.

1. a, b, c
2. a, c, b
3. b, c, a
4. b, a, c
5. c, a, b
6. c, b, a
7. a, b, c
8. a, c, b
9. b, c, a
10. b, a, c
11. c, a, b
12. c, b, a

YEEEHAWWWWW!! Got it.


30 posted on 08/11/2004 1:15:18 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: weave09

See above, I think that works.


31 posted on 08/11/2004 1:15:54 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: firstiamaussoldier

My mistake ma'am, no offense intended.


32 posted on 08/11/2004 1:21:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Be a Dollar a Day FReeper, and SMILE when you get your Mastercard bill!)
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To: weave09; kevkrom

N/M, it's closer but no cigar. DAMN.


33 posted on 08/11/2004 1:23:58 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Shryke

I still don't get 1, 5, and 9 playing each other at any time. Of course, you still have one round to work with.


34 posted on 08/11/2004 1:26:33 PM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: weave09

sorry, tisn't possible

(please don't ask for a proof)


35 posted on 08/11/2004 1:46:46 PM PDT by fnord (Being humble doesn't mean thinking less of yourself. It means thinking more of others.)
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To: weave09

OK, my proof is based in logic, not a formula.

4 rounds equals 12 playing partners for each player (3 each round).
You want each to play the other eleven, which means you can only duplicate one playing partner over all 4 rounds.
All told, 12 players must have exactly 1 duplicate each, spread over 4 rounds.

However, you can't even have two rounds of totally unique foursomes (in fact, at least half of the players must repeat a playing partner from the previous day).

Proof:
there are 3 groups each day - A, B, C
players 1,2,3,4 play in group A first day
where will they play day 2?
put 1 in A, 2 in B, 3 in C ... player 4 must go into a group with someone he played the previous round with.

Go ahead and try to design 2 totally unique rounds.
btw, you could make this work with 16 players, I think.

What this means is there are at least 6 duplicates each round after the first, for a minmum of 18 duplicates. Since your premise only allows for 12 duplicates, you can't win.

I'll take payment in beer ...


36 posted on 08/11/2004 1:58:11 PM PDT by fnord (Being humble doesn't mean thinking less of yourself. It means thinking more of others.)
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To: fnord
Which direction was train a going when it crashes into train b on a parallel track and how does the time warp factor equate with the square root of the angle of the obtuse triangle's hypotneuse?

Show your work.

37 posted on 08/11/2004 2:46:16 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." FirstIAmAUSSoldier and I approve of this message...)
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To: weave09

In conjunction with pythagoreans theorum in conjunction with virgo it appears that chi square for N=12 in a four round rotation is inverse to the sum of the square root of 3.

Proof is in the pudding.


38 posted on 08/11/2004 2:48:31 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." FirstIAmAUSSoldier and I approve of this message...)
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