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The Hobbit Hole XIII - Let them pass! Let them pass!
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Posted on 07/13/2004 9:49:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Let them pass! Let them pass!
(Note to dwarves, this is only meant figuratively)

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: ExGeeEye
I just hope King Arthur comes up to the high standard of historical accuracy and production value benchmarked by Monty Python's Holy Grail.

~chuckling~

1,861 posted on 07/17/2004 12:55:34 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: 2Jedismom

Actually..... now I am getting that security popup....


1,862 posted on 07/17/2004 1:01:20 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I reported the post that is missing, 1852 (cuz I know you'll ask!)

It was 2J's post, and it was ~way worse~ than just naughty breakfast pics (~snickering~)


1,863 posted on 07/17/2004 1:15:46 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

"Rose and I will be interested to hear what you think of I, Robot... I've heard some good reviews that lead me to hope it won't be as bad as the trailers are making it look."

It probably can't be as bad as the trailers are making it look, so hopefully there's hope :)


1,864 posted on 07/17/2004 1:26:50 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: HairOfTheDog; SuziQ; All
Hi, I am looking for anyone who has played LoTR "Risk" game.

I have it, and am drudging thru the rules, etc., and have some questions that I would like to ask via FR mail, if anyone has experience with it!

I played regular "Risk", but only once, didn't understand it (I was young and it was years ago), and this one seems a bit different.

Thanks in advance....
1,865 posted on 07/17/2004 1:34:27 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: HairOfTheDog; SuziQ; All

Nevermind! I checked around a few months ago for a site like this and couldn't find it; now it shows up on google...so go figure. I am all set!

http://lordoftheringsrisk.com/


1,866 posted on 07/17/2004 2:20:29 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ksen; My back yard; RedBloodedAmerican
Pinging some folks who I know have played LOTR Risk... see msg 1865, please!
1,867 posted on 07/17/2004 2:39:05 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I wondered, where did it lead? Stars?)
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To: HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom
Heh, I saw it before it got pulled, you can't fool me! ;p
1,868 posted on 07/17/2004 2:39:56 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I wondered, where did it lead? Stars?)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Sometimes I can!


1,869 posted on 07/17/2004 2:47:11 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (~*-,._.,-*~Loves her hubbit~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: HairOfTheDog
True... I guess I should have added, "this time" to that sentence.
1,870 posted on 07/17/2004 2:48:26 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I wondered, where did it lead? Stars?)
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To: ExGeeEye
***More conjecture. I think most constabularies frown on the use of hollow-point or other expanding ammunition.

Actually, just about every police department uses very "hot", expanding ammo. The only alternative is FMJ, which has too much penetration, and increased danger of ricochet.

Of course, this did not prevent the Honorable, and Ignorant, Coleman A. Young, mayor of Detroit, from trying to ban "ammunition that you can't use in the damn Geneva Convention" from his police department. (His praetorian guard carried Uzis at a time when the rest of the police department could only carry revolvers.)

While in his view the police department should not use weapons or ammunition denied the US military, he forgot that the Army also has artillery, tanks, and helicopter gunships, all legal under the Geneva Convention (actually the Hague Convention). I don't think he was planning on equipping each cop car with a mortar and baseplate in the trunk.

1,871 posted on 07/17/2004 2:52:53 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: 300winmag

"While in his view the police department should not use weapons or ammunition denied the US military, he forgot that the Army also has artillery, tanks, and helicopter gunships, all legal under the Geneva Convention (actually the Hague Convention). I don't think he was planning on equipping each cop car with a mortar and baseplate in the trunk."

LOL! Hey, if he was mayor during Prohibition he could've probably stopped crime by banning Al Capone from using tommyguns, too :)


1,872 posted on 07/17/2004 3:58:23 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I, Robot? It wasn't as bad as I'd thought. Some of it was preposterous - Susan Calvin as the hot action babe was just wrong - but... how can I put this? It actually made sense within an Asimovian framework. To me, it seemed like a "Caves of Steel" sort of story, within the world of his Susan Calvin stories. Does that make sense?

I liked Spiderman better. Just got back from that. The elevator scene was funny, but I'm not sure the villian "worked" for me. Good movie, but it almost seemed too cookie-cutter.


1,873 posted on 07/17/2004 4:45:12 PM PDT by JenB (Colorado or Bust: 12 Days)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; JenB; ExGeeEye; Fedora
Well.

We liked I, Robot.

Perhaps it was because my expectations were so very low, but it was respectable!

The credits said it was "Suggested by a story by Isaac Asimov". "Suggested" is a fair term to use. It was in the spirit of Asimov's story universe- a story that Asimov might have written had he been a fan of the shoot-em-up-cop movie genre. He was clearly a fan of detective stories and this is very much a detective story.

Will Smith stars as Will Smith. His character had a name, I think, but he always plays "the cop" the same way. He's not much for acting, but he is adorable and vey funny. The robots turned out to be visually satisfying. Beautiful in a sculptural sense, but still strange enough to allow us to empathize with Smith's aversion to them. The lead robot, Sonny, had a creepy "HAL"-vibe. I kept expecting him to say, "Hello, Dave". *shudder*

The millieu was right on- I'm glad they paid attention to those details. They did a good job tying our present into the future Asimov imagined. They also made a fair attempt at getting around the 3 Laws and got very close to Asimov's "zeroth law"- the one that places the good of mankind above that of an individual human. Not bad for amateurs. ;P

Overall, I found it entertaining and pretty good. Neither an epic masterpiece nor a MST3K candidate. There was some language, Matrix-style special effects gimmicks, shoot-em-up violence, but no nudity or gratuituous sex. We'll definately get this on DVD and might even see it again in the theater.

1,874 posted on 07/17/2004 5:06:45 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Lil'freeper

"Neither an epic masterpiece nor a MST3K candidate."

Everything is an MST3K candidate :) Glad to hear it wasn't as bad as it could've been, though.


1,875 posted on 07/17/2004 5:11:19 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: JenB

What was cookie-cutter about it?


1,876 posted on 07/17/2004 5:11:42 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: JenB
Susan Calvin as the hot action babe was just wrong

LOL. I didn't make that connection. The gal on the screen bears no resemblence! I guess I just imagined her as an older woman. Retirement age or something. The screen character is very flat and uninteresting, so much so, that I didn't bother trying to remember her name.

1,877 posted on 07/17/2004 5:12:45 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Fedora
Everything is an MST3K candidate

Careful. The thought of PJ's LOTR on MST3K....

Them's fightin' words.

1,878 posted on 07/17/2004 5:14:46 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Lil'freeper

LOL! I'm trying to envision how that would go. The movie starts:

"The world is changing"

Whoops! Sorry, didn't mean to look; didn't know you were changing. . .

"I feel it in the water
I feel it in the air"

I feel it in the box office. . .

And so on for nine hours. . .hmmm, maybe I should watch that again, heh-heh-heh. . .


1,879 posted on 07/17/2004 5:20:42 PM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Fedora

tsk tsk tsk


1,880 posted on 07/17/2004 5:23:58 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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