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Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 16

Posted on 04/16/2004 6:37:21 PM PDT by Mo1



TOPICS: Dimensional Doorway; Freeoples
KEYWORDS: darkshearesmyhero; whoputthatthere
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To: restornu
I think the live beheading is fake. I think that head was cut off and that body was in in was sriff as a board!

I haven't seen it and I don't plan to

But I don't think it was a fake since Nick Berg was found in 2 pieces

2,721 posted on 05/17/2004 7:26:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1

Arrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...


2,722 posted on 05/17/2004 7:32:50 PM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Mo1; grannie

Grannie Only Posner can do this dress proud!


2,723 posted on 05/17/2004 7:34:37 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1

I said LIVING, he was either given a drug to slow down the heart or was alread dead when they carved the head off. The body never struggled nor were the screams synchronize with the video!

The orange jumpsuit would be splater with blood NO blood!

the head would drip no dripping!

I am not saying they did not afterwards cut it off!


2,724 posted on 05/17/2004 7:42:00 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/20836.htm

The New York Post
Rooting for the Enemy...

By JOHN PODHORETZ

May 14, 2004 -- A MAN has his head cut off by al Qaeda in Iraq, and The New York Times aggressively markets the idea - on its front page yesterday - that his death is somehow the fault of the United States. "The family of Nicholas E. Berg challenged American military officials on Wednesday," according to lead paragraph in the Times' story, "insisting that the man beheaded by Islamic terrorists in Iraq had earlier been in the custody of federal officials who should have done more to protect him."

Whatever the circumstances of Nick Berg's detention in Iraq and his family's torment at his unspeakable murder, the Times' decision to offer this angle as its main story in the matter of his beheading is a very telling fact about that newspaper, the mainstream media and the politics of 2004.

No matter what happens in the war with Iraq, no matter what the evildoers do, the Times wants to bring it back to high-level American misconduct - misconduct so severe that it supposedly calls the entire mission in Iraq into question. To blame the United States for Berg's beheading might be acceptable for Berg's own grief-deranged kin. But it is not acceptable for The New York Times or anyone else.

The Times is leading the mainstream media in turning the United States into the bad guys in Iraq. But it is far from alone.

Take a look at Time magazine's cover this week. It features an artist's rendering of one of the photographs from Abu Ghraib with the line: "Iraq: How Did It Come to This?"

"It" didn't come to "this." "It" is a war to liberate 25 million people and rout Islamic extremists, terrorists and those who thirst for the mass murder of Americans. "This" was an aberrancy that was stopped almost five months ago, when the revelations at Abu Ghraib led to investigations, arrests and the wholesale reinvention of the Iraq prison system.


Time's cover line is a vile and grotesque slander against every American in uniform in Iraq. It remains the case, more than two weeks after the public exposure of the Abu Ghraib photographs, that not a single digital photo showing mistreatment has emerged from another cellblock at that self-same prison, or from any of the other 24 prisons in Iraq.

Indeed, every photograph shown to U.S. senators yesterday is part of the same set of pictures featuring the same eight dirtbags.

The scandal isn't widening. If anything, it's contracting. The focus continues to zoom in on the actual people in the pictures and their disgusting conduct in them. And yet Teddy Kennedy, a man who once let a woman die, feels free to speak the following unspeakable words: "We now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management."

The United States is, according to the man in whose car Mary Jo Kopechne drowned, no better than the regime of Saddam Hussein.

Teddy Kennedy isn't just some outlier. Teddy Kennedy is the chief surrogate of the Democratic candidate for president of the United States and a lionized figure - so lionized that a worshipful profile of him published in Boston magazine won a major journalism award last year.

So let's be clear what's going on here. As we speak, 138,000 Americans are serving under dangerous conditions in Iraq. And our forces in Karbala are fighting against the goons and thugs of Muqtada al-Sadr with some success. They're risking their lives for freedom and honor and duty and love of country.

And conventional liberal opinion wants them to lose.

Conventional liberal opinion believes that the Abu Ghraib photos are the true meaning of the war, and that Nick Berg is just another victim of callous U.S. policy.

Conventional liberal opinion is actively seeking the humiliation and defeat of the United States in Iraq.

E-mail:

Podhoretz@nypost.com


2,725 posted on 05/17/2004 7:42:08 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: catpuppy

WHAT ... tooo much for the eyes??


2,726 posted on 05/17/2004 7:43:53 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: restornu
Well like I said .. I didn't see it and yes there is a good possibility that he was drugged
2,727 posted on 05/17/2004 7:46:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1; catpuppy; Conservababe

Thinks those are panty is that not a thong?


2,728 posted on 05/17/2004 7:48:09 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1

2,729 posted on 05/17/2004 7:59:33 PM PDT by restornu
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VIACOM


CBS 2 Chicago | cbs2chicago.com
Nick Berg's Dad Slams Rummy
Calls On Secretary To Resign
May 17, 2004 8:51 am US/Central

The father of an American beheaded in Iraq says he holds Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld responsible for his son's death.

Speaking in a radio interview on Monday in Jerusalem, Michael Berg called for Rumsfeld's resignation.

Nicholas Berg's headless body was found May ninth in western Baghdad. Three days later, a videotape posted on an al-Qaida-related Web site showed him being decapitated by hooded men.

Berg's captors said the killing was to avenge abuses of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison by U.S. forces.

Speaking to Israel Army Radio, Berg's father, Michael, said Rumsfeld bears most of the responsibility for his son's death.

Berg said Rumsfeld hasn't lost his son. He said, "I think that a resignation will be great." He said, "I would love it."


2,730 posted on 05/17/2004 7:59:49 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1

*LOL* Not quite hairy enough - thank goodness


2,731 posted on 05/17/2004 8:00:22 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Mo1

Excellent commentary


2,732 posted on 05/17/2004 8:04:02 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Mo1

Here's the New Yorker take on the prison scandal:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040524fa_fact


2,733 posted on 05/17/2004 8:05:57 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Mo1
Well, I watched it, Mo. I must admit that hubby watched it first, and I asked him of it. He said that if you did not know what you were watching, you would not know what was happening until they held up his head, because it was so grainy and blurred video.

So, I start thinking...what is a grainy video in this high tech age, especially if this one will be be shown to the world? That was my first suspision. So I watched it, over and over.

To me, it looked like a high school drama play. I am a medical professional and I know that this man on the video who had his neck sawed was not bleeding from spurting arteries, all four of them in his neck.

Yes, I know that Berg was beheaded, but I don't think it was on this video. Remember when Pearle was beheaded and they had to reenact it because the camera man failed?

Lord love a duck...these incompetent monsters cannot even use modern technology or ancient culture to properly record the beheading of a man.

I loathe them.
2,734 posted on 05/17/2004 8:15:42 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: ValerieUSA

I saw that ..

Isn't Hersh a far lefty??


2,735 posted on 05/17/2004 8:18:52 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1

That would be my guess - the link was sent to me by my leftist friend in Austin. He's rather smug about it. I still haven't read it all the way through - it smells bad.


2,736 posted on 05/17/2004 8:28:15 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

The fact the liberals have to rely on a far lefty to put this out is telling

I've also noticed how the liberal media/press are defending the soldiers that did these things??


2,737 posted on 05/17/2004 8:33:54 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Conservababe
Like I said .. I didn't watch it and I am not knowledgeable about the medical side of it

All I know is Nick Berg is dead .. he is in 2 pieces and the terrorist killed him for propaganda
2,738 posted on 05/17/2004 8:36:57 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1

I listen to this guy he comes on at 10 pm and talks alover the world he is moderate which drives me crazy but I do get to hear some interesting people who are not always are moderate!

Very educational if you can sort out the weeds!


2,739 posted on 05/17/2004 8:37:04 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Mo1

I listen to this guy he comes on at 10 pm and talks alover the world he is moderate which drives me crazy but I do get to hear some interesting people who are not always are moderate!

Very educational if you can sort out the weeds!

http://www.wabcradio.com/


2,740 posted on 05/17/2004 8:37:16 PM PDT by restornu
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