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DINOSAUR NATIONAL MONUMENT:JURASSIC PARK OR JURASSIC JUMBLE?
Institute of Creation Research ^ | 04/2004 | William A. Hoesch and Steven A. Austin

Posted on 04/02/2004 2:00:07 PM PST by DannyTN

Link has pictures.

More than one thousand large fossil bones stand out in bold relief upon the rock wall at the Quarry Visitor Center in Utah’s Dinosaur National Monument. The first-time visitor is stunned by the magnitude of the exhibit. The quarry face (known best as “The Wall”) is surely the finest onlocation dinosaur display in the world. This tangled knot of dinosaur bones represents a classic “mass burial” deposit, a trademark of what geologists call the Morrison Formation. Extending from New Mexico to Canada, the Morrison Formation covers about 700 thousand square miles and has been assigned to the Jurassic System. How did such a burial take place? We seek to find the real significance of the deposit at Dinosaur National Monument (DNM) and to dispel myths that our culture has delivered to us.

History of “The Wall”
On the heels of the American “dinosaur rush,” Earl Douglass in 1909 discovered eight articulated brontosaur tail vertebrae, standing out in relief from a sandstone ridge in eastern Utah. As digging began, he was shocked at how the skeletons turned up, literally one on top of another, and how the smaller stegosaurs “got in the way” of the prized sauropods.1 The sedimentary rock package containing the bones can be called the “Quarry andstone,” a lensshaped pebbly sandstone up to 50 feet in thickness that is exposed for 3,000 feet along the ridge outcrop.
The Quarry sandstone is composed chiefly of ii chert and tuff grains.2 Volcanoes certainly supplied the tuff grains, and perhaps the chert pebbles as well. It is part of the overall 470-foot-thick Brushy Basin Member of the Morrison Formation that is dominantly mudstone. No less than a dozen well-articulated sauropods were excavated over a 15-year period ending in 1924. Probably none was more famous than the original “Brontosaurus” excavated by Douglass, that remains the most complete ever found, and that has stood in Pittsburgh’s Carnegie Museum since 1915.
The Quarry Visitor Center was opened officially to the public in 1958. Popular caricatures about dinosaurs can now be compared with the stark reality of the deposit itself, in an exhibit that is without parallel in the world.

The Jurassic Park caricature
Of all the popular images of dinosaurs, perhaps none has been so compelling as the one featured on the front cover of Life Magazine over 50 years ago.3 The magazine displayed Brontosaurus, the snub-nosed sauropod, half-floating in the waters of a swamp and lazily munching on its lush vegetation. The artwork was derived from the Yale Peabody Museum’s mural painted by artist Rudolf Zallinger after sixmonths of consultation with the world’s top geologists.4 It had been considered fact, not speculation, that the mural and magazine cover accurately represented the world in which Brontosaurus lived 150 million years ago. Because the purpose was to depict “The Age of Reptiles,” mammals do not appear. The image became an icon so compelling that even a U.S. postage stamp bore its likeness. The image was derived, in a major way, from the deposit visible at the Quarry Visitor Center Today, this “Jurassic Park” caricature can be regarded as twentieth-century folklore. Brontosaurus, the icon that stood for at least two generations, underwent an extreme makeover in the 1970s, to correct two mistakes made much earlier. The result was a new name, Apatosaurus, and a radically different head with a The classic dinosaur “massed accumulation” deposit at the DNM Quarry. Photo: Steve Austin iii The artwork on this 1970 U.S. postage stamp was an icon for over three decades. long-snouted and delicate look.5

Almost all geologists familiar with the Morrison Formation question the swamp image, and some call it “heresy.”6 The contention that waters were somehow needed to buoy the giant herbivores is also discounted. The image that these were slothful, stupid, and lumbering beasts was revised with new evidence leading some to suggest warm-bloodedness.

Sedimentary evidence indicating bone transport means that we see the dinosaur burial site today, not the “park” in which they lived. Mammals are not depicted in “The Age of Reptiles” icon, but mammal fossils are well represented in the Morrison Formation at DNM.7

Finally, the age for the deposit has been “adjusted” so many times over the last 80 years that there is little reason for confidence that the currently accepted age is the correct one.8 Thus, the image that had been so widely embraced by the public involved a largely fictional animal in the fictional waters of a fictional swamp during a fictional age. This was the original Jurassic Park, concocted not by Hollywood, nor by creationists, but by the very scientific leaders, museum curators, and government administrators who were most familiar with the DNM deposit.

Six facts regarding the Dinosaur National Monument deposit We need to get the real story for the Quarry Visitor Center deposit. Recognizing the facts is important because they help us get beyond the cultural baggage and icons to develop a deeper understanding.



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1 posted on 04/02/2004 2:00:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Junior; js1138
Jumbled masses of dinosaur bones have been associated with ancient rivers and are typically indicative of large numbers of animals being swept away and drowning while crossing the river. - Junior

You might find this article interesting, note that they rule out a river accumulation.

"Creationists might want to do some original research."

Try this article.

2 posted on 04/02/2004 2:08:37 PM PST by DannyTN
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3 posted on 04/02/2004 2:09:09 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: DannyTN
I'm impressed! Excellent find!
4 posted on 04/02/2004 8:00:00 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Dimensio; PatrickHenry; balrog666
More Evidence...

Evidence of unprecedented flooding combined with unprecedented volcanism.
Evidence of Mammals existing with Dinosaurs.
No evidence of evolution.
5 posted on 04/06/2004 1:11:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Evidence of Mammals existing with Dinosaurs.

??? You think clams are mammals???

And what did you think of the time frame of the catastrophe?

Now, what was your point?

6 posted on 04/06/2004 1:53:20 PM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: balrog666
"??? You think clams are mammals???"

No, there was clams and mammal fossils there. " Sedimentary evidence indicating bone transport means that we see the dinosaur burial site today, not the “park” in which they lived. Mammals are not depicted in “The Age of Reptiles” icon, but mammal fossils are well represented in the Morrison Formation at DNM.7 "

"And what did you think of the time frame of the catastrophe?"

I didn't see where it concluded a time frame, I was dissappointed that the article did not provide specific evidence for a short time frame. It did say this though. "Finally, the age for the deposit has been “adjusted” so many times over the last 80 years that there is little reason for confidence that the currently accepted age is the correct one.8 "

Now, what was your point?

That a global flood fits better with the evidence than localized river flooding. And that the so-called scientific community are often grossly wrong in their assumptions and conclusions because their world view / religion influences their science.

7 posted on 04/06/2004 2:02:28 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
No, there was clams and mammal fossils there.

Strange about all that emphasis on clams, eh?

And, mammals, eh? Funny how they didn't point any out. Would these "mammal fossils" be full grown elephants, modern gorillas, or some already known shrew-like proto-mammals from 65-million+ years ago?

I didn't see where it concluded a time frame,

Ditto, except for the well defined term Jurassic.

And the adjustment of the estimated age? Was that adjusting from 79 to 80 million years ago or 65 million to 6 thousand? Not the 6,000, eh? Didn't think so.

That a global flood fits better with the evidence than localized river flooding.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, you make me laugh so much.

At least the authors weren't foolish enough to stick their necks out and mention a "flood", global or otherwise.

8 posted on 04/06/2004 2:20:47 PM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: DannyTN
First of all, I visited the Dinosaut Wall last summer, and a 'tangled knot' is a misleading description. There are masses of articulated and disarticulated bones close together, but no entanglement.

Second, jutst because how this assemblage came togther is not fully understood, in no way does that indicats that it resulted from a massive and catrastrophic flood. For example, Ashfall fossil beds in Nebraska show a similar but much more recent assemblage of animals; it resulted from a massive distant volcanic eruption.

9 posted on 04/06/2004 3:52:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; balrog666
The lead article for this thread comes from ICR. I see no reason to spend much time on it. Their material has, in the past, been shown to be bogus. And Morris, their founder, has made fraudulent quote-mining into an art form. So I'm outta here.
10 posted on 04/06/2004 4:18:23 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry
mined-out placemarker
11 posted on 04/06/2004 5:04:14 PM PDT by longshadow
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