[sobieski]

Mel's comment is, of course, correct. Millions were killed b/c of Nazi racism; some of whom were Jews in concentration camps. How can he "marginalize" the Holocaust by noting that Jews were among the "untermenschen" killed by the Nazis. It would seem that Rabbi Hier is the Holocaust denier.

[rmlew]

I believe the context is important. Gibron was essentially asked to refute his father's denial.
Gibson chose to give a general answer, that is true, but did not satisfy many.

I don't give a wit about the ante-deluvian views of Hutton Gibson. The only issue for me was the report that Gibson drew not only from the Gospels, but also from the anti-Semitic visions of Sister Anne Catherine Emmerich.

[Nachum]

"I have friends and parents of friends who have numbers on their arms. The guy who taught me Spanish was a Holocaust survivor. He worked in a concentration camp in France. Yes of course. Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century 20 million people died in the Soviet Union."

Mel's answer was a politician's spinmiesterly obfuscation. Instead of directly answering the question, he danced around it. The simple and respectful answer would have been a simple "yes, their was a holocost of the Jews". To say that "some of them were Jews" begs the argument, "how many?" This is a public relations nightmare. That is why he is deleting scenes, apologizing, agonizing, and speechifying. It is only going to get worse for him.

To all manner of Christians, he is a new hero. To the Jews, he is now a bigot. To the secular people in America, middle of the road folks, he is now suspect of being an extremist possibly to be shunned. He is big box office and I am sure, from his management, to the studios that bankroll him, they wondering if he is hurting his box office take. Look for more "interviews" and "statements" and "ecumenical meetings". It is already boring.

[af_vet_1981]

Mel's comment is, of course, correct. Millions were killed b/c of Nazi racism; some of whom were Jews in concentration camps. How can he "marginalize" the Holocaust by noting that Jews were among the "untermenschen" killed by the Nazis. It would seem that Rabbi Hier is the Holocaust denier.

How many Jews were murdered in the Holocaust ?

[sfRummygirl]

Yes, it's that quote about when they came for me, no one was left.
You know, I only just found out a few years ago that so many people were killed in the Soviet Union. Why is this not talked about?

[CyberCowboy777]

I am getting a sick feeling that some in the Jewish community want to marginalize the sufferings of millions in those same concentration camps.

To say that Hitler was after Jew alone is a lie - he hated equally and both Jew and Christian died in the same fashion with the same prejudice.

I can give quote and documentation one after another that demonstrates the hate for the Transcendent God and all things Hebrew (including Jesus as a Jew). The split in the German Christian church pitted brother against brother as to the future of Christianity , with one being gassed, or shot or burned.

There seem to be Holocaust deniers Jew and Gentile.