The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

To: Professional Engineer

Hey good morning!

What were you doing there? - I am just gettin' up and catchin' up!

9,861 posted on 02/27/2004 7:03:24 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

To: HairOfTheDog

9,862 posted on 02/27/2004 7:06:42 AM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)

Interesting report back on The Passion 2J!

I still think I am not gonna watch it yet.... but I enjoy reading the discussion about it.

9,863 posted on 02/27/2004 7:08:55 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

To: HairOfTheDog

I had to go survey the PX. We're gonna be working on a remodel and expansion for the foodcourt area there.

9,864 posted on 02/27/2004 7:09:21 AM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)

To: 2Jedismom; All

We got in late last night from getting ready for the garage sale. Elf-boy was (eek!) 2 hours past his bedtime. Just getting him up this morning to go put in my time at the sale.

Hopefully, someone will need a kitchen table with chairs!

9,865 posted on 02/27/2004 7:10:55 AM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)

I'm pretty content with the way things are now, but I wouldn't give up my time in the military for anything.

I'm with you Rosie. I like my life now, but wouldn't trade my GI time for anything. Gives me a real connection to the sacrifices of the Founders and every GI since 1775.

9,866 posted on 02/27/2004 7:11:36 AM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)

To: Professional Engineer

9,867 posted on 02/27/2004 7:12:39 AM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)

To: Professional Engineer

Exactly! My own contribution was pretty small, but I was working with people who contributed far more. That's something.

Not to mention it was a good introduction to the "real world" for me...without being dumped into it feet first. Better prep for life than just college, I think - in my case, anyway.

9,868 posted on 02/27/2004 7:14:02 AM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)

Yeah, I am with you there. Sometimes I miss my military job, but I would not trade what I have now.

You know, I almost reenlisted for Arabic?

9,869 posted on 02/27/2004 7:16:49 AM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)

~sip~

Yes.... good morning indeed.

We have a trip to town planned today. Sonya's husband Tim is arguing a hearing in court today.... We are gonna go watch.

It's a hearing about release of documents in a case he's got against the state. Nothing too good yet, but Sonya wants to go, and I find trial stuff interesting.

9,870 posted on 02/27/2004 7:17:56 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

To work as a translator, you mean?

9,871 posted on 02/27/2004 7:20:35 AM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)

Well, sometime during the movie, I simply forgot there were subtitles! It was like they blended in so well that you forgot your reading and could understand what they were saying!

I've only had one movie with subtitles affect me that way. It was Babette's Feast, and I would highly recommend it to you and everyone else.

I'm glad to hear it had that effect on you. I was fascinated when I was watching the PAX special about the movie. I loved hearing the Aramaic and Latin being spoken. Did you notice that when Jesus is speaking with Pilate, he changes from Aramaic to Latin?

9,872 posted on 02/27/2004 7:22:40 AM PST by SuziQ

No...I'm too ignorant to know the difference!

Immediately after the movie, I really had no desire to see it again...I don't know if I will...but it's nuances like that that makes me almost want to.

I do remember that when Pilot washed his hands of the situation, he said "I wash my hands of this man's blood" or something like that...and they showed the subtitles for it. Caiphas answered him, but there were no subtitles of what he said.

9,873 posted on 02/27/2004 7:28:21 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)

9,874 posted on 02/27/2004 7:31:04 AM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)

I took this photo in 1992. It turned into a self-portrait. I had only intended to get a family member's name. It's in here. There are 17 others listed on other parts of The Wall

9,875 posted on 02/27/2004 7:34:04 AM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)

To: Professional Engineer

Haha, love your tagline.

9,876 posted on 02/27/2004 7:53:24 AM PST by My back yard

To: My back yard

9,877 posted on 02/27/2004 8:08:18 AM PST by Professional Engineer (We're going to Mars & Venus & Titan & Saturn and then on to Jupiter and Uranus.~Yeeeeeeaaaaaahh!)

Saw it Wed. night with David. It left us speechless. Here's what I wrote on it.

It was the most beautiful, excellent and yet terrible, movie I've ever seen. David watched with me, and made an observation that; though the images of the scourging, Satan and the minions, were horrible, the ugliest most hideous parts of the movie were the men who laughed and enjoyed the torturing of Him. I was determined to not hide my eyes during the scourging, but anticipated the relief that was to come at the resurrection, certain it would be gloriously done.

I didn't get that, and am left with a dreadful sorrow for all of us, and a question of 'why'? Why do we deserve Him to suffer so for us? To have such a clear and real picture of the suffering, without an equal image of 'why' I'm left without a sense of balance I had just yester morning.

I felt obliged to remind my son before he went to sleep that he is good, and that God loves him. That though there is evil in men, people are basically good. I hope no parents take children any younger to see the movie.

"I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? (John 11:25-26)."

Without what went on before and after, without this for the healing, the movie's message was incomplete, and left wounds bleeding on the ground. For some people, it might be an awakening to something they didn't have before. Some will be inspired to mercy and forgiveness, who weren't so inclined before. I don't know.

In my life, I am mother first. Everything comes naturally through that view. You tell a child repeatedly how he is bad, and he will deliver, with mean behavior. This is such a powerful movie, I wish there was something as powerful in the ending of it to bring a balance. Maybe it was because I was sitting next to my son, but I wanted more of why this all had to happen. That He so loves us He gave His only begotten Son to suffer so much. We are His precious children all of us, not the blight of Creation. I don't want people coming out of the movie with that feeling.

Definitely go see it, I agree. It is an incredible piece of cinema. Nothing like it ever has been done. But, seeing it once is likely enough for me.

Not criticizing Gibson. It is an amazing work of cinema. I knew all the parts to the story, all the names of the characters and what parts they played in the crucifixion, and all the stations of the cross. But I have never known and seen the story as I do now. The work is a relic, an artifact of the day. It is the monolith, turned on side and showing us what it is.

It is as it was.

9,878 posted on 02/27/2004 8:08:22 AM PST by My back yard

To: Professional Engineer

9,879 posted on 02/27/2004 8:10:15 AM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The Goldfish have it out to do you in.)

The signs are located in a sensitive area, ergo no cameras. But they are darn funny. Maybe one day I'll try to do a photoshop rendition of one.

9,880 posted on 02/27/2004 8:19:40 AM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this good Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)

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