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The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

Posted on 01/31/2004 9:52:08 AM PST by ecurbh

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.


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To: RosieCotton
BTW, Schoolhouse Rock is now out on DVD.

I've got it on videotape--should probably get the DVD, I bet there's more stuff on it.

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

Hookin' up words and phrases and clauses. . . :)

13,281 posted on 03/09/2004 12:21:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
If you're interested, I found these authors to be extremely enlightening wrt "education" and homeschooling. Nock and Gatto were the straws that broke this camle's back and affirmed my decision to leave teaching.

Albert Jay Nock "American Education"

John Taylor Gatto Any of his essays (google Gatto seven lesson teacher) portions of his book are on his website.

Grace Llewellyn Author of "A Teenage Liberation Handbook", also has a website.

and, of course, John Holt (website).

13,282 posted on 03/09/2004 12:31:07 PM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this good Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: RosieCotton
LOL, You didn't bite. ;-(

I can't remember any of the rest of that tune.
13,283 posted on 03/09/2004 12:35:52 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Gooood Mooorrrrrnning, FReeeeReeeppuuubblic~It's TreadHead Tuesday!)
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To: Darksheare
Ouch.

I think I've seen that at work once or twice..

*chuckle*

I've only used it a couple times since signing up here, on a couple very flagrant trolls. Don't think they had any idea what hit them :)

"Be formless, shapeless, like water. . .You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle; you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. . .Now water can flow, or it can crash! Be water, my friend."

--Bruce Lee

13,284 posted on 03/09/2004 12:36:00 PM PST by Fedora
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To: RosieCotton
I could go on for a long time, but I know it's a tricky subject in a lot of ways since people tend to have strong opinions when it comes to education. ;-)

Naw, agree with me, and all will be fine!

13,285 posted on 03/09/2004 12:37:52 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Gooood Mooorrrrrnning, FReeeeReeeppuuubblic~It's TreadHead Tuesday!)
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To: Lil'freeper
Thanks for the great links! I bookmarked and skimmed them and will study them more thoroughly later. I've considered writing something along the lines of that Teenage Liberation Handbook, so I'm especially interested in that one.
13,286 posted on 03/09/2004 12:44:52 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Professional Engineer
Naw, agree with me, and all will be fine!


13,287 posted on 03/09/2004 12:51:03 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
LOL!
I remember back awhile ago, this one repeat troll who in on instance who used the moniker of "Harvard Man" insisted that the Arch of Titus was fake.
*snort*
Oh was that an educational thread.
And everything he was shown, he'd say the same thing repeatedly, "It's faked/impossible/lies/history is written by the victors."
Well, his arguement about the Arch of Titus boiled down to his insistence that there never was a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem ever.
(Arch of Titus commemorates the sacking of the Temple.)
His response that the arch was a fake because the victors write history was almost amusing.

The whole exchange was way out there.
13,288 posted on 03/09/2004 12:53:49 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: Cats cannot be turned into nunchucks by tying their tails together.)
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To: Fedora
It is excellent- made me cry!

I had a student who was really floundering: bored, stoned, getting in trouble but utterly brilliant. He'd sleep/drool all week long, come in Friday and ace one of my notoriously tough chemistry quizzes. It infuriated everyone!

To him, school stood in the way of what he wanted to do. His parents were successful entrepeneurs and he wanted to do that, too. He needed a bigger challenge a classroom could offer and he knew that if there was something he really needed to learn, he was smart enough to pick it up along the way.

So I took him aside one day and shared what I had observed about him and told him about Llewellyn's book- that it was for kids like him who were ready to move beyond the classroom- and that I had a copy he could borrow if he were interested.

He said (this is a quote): "Naw, thanks. I don't read."

13,289 posted on 03/09/2004 1:02:52 PM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this good Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: Lil'freeper; Fedora
Yesss! Gatto is excellent! I haven't read Nock, but if you liked Gatto's books, I'd probably like Nock as well.

OK, will catch up on other posts later. Haven't had much time to post this afternoon...
13,290 posted on 03/09/2004 1:21:42 PM PST by RosieCotton (Anything worth doing is worth doing badly. - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Darksheare
The whole exchange was way out there.

Sounds like it!--that's about as far out there as anything I've seen on FR so far. Too bad I missed that one. I think I would've started by asking him how he knew who the victors were. . .

13,291 posted on 03/09/2004 1:25:10 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Lil'freeper
He said (this is a quote): "Naw, thanks. I don't read."

LOL!--that's classic :) One of the smartest people I know is dyslexic and he hates to read because of it. He had an attitude towards textbooks similar to your student's, but he could solve any science problem you gave him by dealing with it hands-on. They sent him to a think tank school that let kids learn at their own pace through super-accelerated programs, but even that bored him. He keeps getting degrees in different things and then after a few years he gets bored with it and switches to something else. Very challenging for a teacher to try to deal with, I imagine.

13,292 posted on 03/09/2004 1:32:43 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
I just looked for the thread and cannot for the life of me remember it's title!
And it was WAAAaaaaay out there.
*chuckle*
He seemed tpo think that the Romans lost in that one..
13,293 posted on 03/09/2004 1:34:40 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: Cats cannot be turned into nunchucks by tying their tails together.)
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To: RosieCotton
BTW, Schoolhouse Rock is now out on DVD.

We have it!! My younger sister learned the Preamble to the Constitution because of Schoolhouse rock! She can only sing it, but she knows it! LOL!

13,294 posted on 03/09/2004 1:39:50 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Darksheare
He seemed tpo think that the Romans lost in that one..

Well, according to his theory that the victors write the history I guess the Romans must've lost, since Josephus wrote the history of that and he was Jewish! :) Of course Tacitus the Roman historian also probably wrote about it--I wonder how that guy would explain it if both the victors and the losers wrote a history of the same event? :) Sounds like that must've been a fun thread :)

13,295 posted on 03/09/2004 2:02:25 PM PST by Fedora
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To: SuziQ
We have it!! My younger sister learned the Preamble to the Constitution because of Schoolhouse rock! She can only sing it, but she knows it! LOL!

That's how I learned it, too, LOL! To this day, if I try to remember the Preamble, that song comes into my head :)

13,296 posted on 03/09/2004 2:03:57 PM PST by Fedora
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13,297 posted on 03/09/2004 2:15:43 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Gooood Mooorrrrrnning, FReeeeReeeppuuubblic~It's TreadHead Tuesday!)
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13,298 posted on 03/09/2004 2:16:01 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Gooood Mooorrrrrnning, FReeeeReeeppuuubblic~It's TreadHead Tuesday!)
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13,300 posted on 03/09/2004 2:16:06 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Gooood Mooorrrrrnning, FReeeeReeeppuuubblic~It's TreadHead Tuesday!)
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