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To: Destro
As is the selection of Latin as the primary language of the day rather then the actual but not Catholic dogma chic Greek language.

The Romans spoke Greek in Jerusalem? Now that's news....

11 posted on 01/21/2004 10:52:57 PM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly
From: Gibson’s “The Passion”

I’m a bit confused.< The movie is in the “original” languages, Aramaic and Latin, but the Mediterranean world of the first century spoke Greek as a result of Hellenization, later adopted by the Roman Empire (though they still spoke Latin in Rome). All of the books in the New Testament—including Romans—were written in the Hellenistic Greek of this period, as was the most popular translation of the Hebrew Scriptures of that day, the Septuagint.

Shouldn’t Jesus and Pilate be speaking Greek in the movie? Naturally the Roman rulers spoke Latin, but Greek was the lingua franca of the Empire. The Jewish leaders would have spoken Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek, and certainly Jesus and the disciples, being from “Galilee of the Gentiles,” would have known Greek but nary a word of Latin. Still, if you insist on Pilate speaking Latin, why use the ecclesiastical pronunciation (rather than the classical) when “church” Latin obviously did not exist at the time!

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Greek was the first language for most educated Romans and for Romans stationed in the East. Most Romans spoke beter Greek then they did Latin.

Even in Rome the Christians did not speak in Latin. From http://www.catacombe.roma.it/en/cripta.html

THE CRYPT OF THE POPES

It is the most sacred and important place in these catacombs, discovered by the great archaeologist de Rossi in 1854, and labelled by him as " the little Vatican, the central monument of all Christian cemeteries". It originated towards the 2nd C. as a private crypt. When the "First Area" came under the direct dipendence of the Church of Rome, it was thought suitable to transform that burial chamber into the cemetery of the Popes.

The sepulchres, now empty, once contained the remains of 9 Popes and of 8 Bishops of the 3rd century. You can still see the original inscriptions on the wall, though broken and incomplete, regarding five of the Popes. Their names are written in Greek, following the official usage of the Church in that time.

On four tombstones, next to the name of the Pontiff, there is the title of epì(scopos), which means "bishop", because he was the head of the Church of Rome. The title papa (pope - father), became exclusive to the bishop of Rome during the 4th century. On two slabs some years later was added the abbreviation MRT ("martyr", which means "witness").This title was given to the Christians who had witnessed their faith in Christ, by shedding their blood.

Among the names of the Popes, written on the tombstones in Greek, are:

St. Fabian (236-250) was a Roman and was elected pope on the death of St. Antherus. His pastoral ministry of 14 years coincided with a period of religious peace. He was a great organiser of the Church of Rome. He divided the city into seven ecclesiastical regions, each with its tituli (parishes), clergy and catacombs He died by decapitation during the persecution of emperor Decius.

This is St. Fabian's name written in Greek:

Pontius Pilate's designed coins for Judea and while the coins are Roman coins, the words on them are Greek.


14 posted on 01/21/2004 11:35:08 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: freebilly
The Romans spoke Latin, although some of the legionaries may also have spoken their own languages. By the time of Christ, a lot of the average soldiers were recruited from outside of Italy, although the higher oficers were still predominantly Roman or at lesat from Italy. One of the Legions involved in the destruction of Jerusalem, the Tenth, was recruited in Spain from Celt-Iberians and sons of Roman settlers there.
40 posted on 01/22/2004 4:28:27 AM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
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