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To: presidio9; cake_crumb; Matthew Paul
Shame on WHO?

Why do Jews try to kill the Truth? What do they want to gain?

JEWS KILL THE TRUTH?

Yup, clear to me it's only certain Jews being discussed, not Jews as a whole. So, what do they have to gain.

I've rather sympathized with Jews so far. This time my viewpoints have changed completely. I am a Christian and I'm not going to sit and watch Christ being savaged by the group of hateful Jews.

Jews! Leave Christ and Christians alone!!!

No, no bigotry here. It's likely clear to any illiterate that Rich is the topic, no Jews. To me, I just see the hate. A clear demonstration of the misuse some will put this film to.

17 posted on 01/20/2004 9:12:23 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson; FreedomSurge; Matthew Paul
I think you are missing the point. As another poster mentioned on this thread, Catholics do not tend to think about Jews much until a small concentration of outspoken liberals presume to tell them what they can and can't do, then accuse the Catholics of bigotry when they tell them to stuff it. Unless Mark Rich has seen this film (he hasn't) he has no right to any opinion whatsoever on its virtue. And he is not the only Jew who has been unable to keep his mouth shut. That small minority today, not events that took place 2000 years ago, are much more likely to foster antisemitism among Catholics.
19 posted on 01/20/2004 9:20:58 AM PST by presidio9 (Libertarians need to grow up)
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To: SJackson
Your post is pure spin.

"Jews! Leave Christ and Christians alone!!!"

Nowhere does this parting shot specify a certain type of Jew.

22 posted on 01/20/2004 9:25:39 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: SJackson
A clear demonstration of the misuse some will put this film to.

I'm afraid you're right. Too many Jews will scream "persecution" when the film comes out, and too many Christians will use the film as an excuse to dredge up old and inaccurate prejudices against the Jewish race.

Maybe Gibson's best legacy will be to teach both sides to behave themselves.

25 posted on 01/20/2004 9:28:31 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: SJackson
Well, there's lots of hate to go around. For example the hate expressed by a rabbi writing in the Jerusalem Post saying the passages in Gopsel of Matthew where the crowd accepts respsonsibility for Jesus' death were "crude forgeries" and saying that the New Testament had been edited to make it hostile to Jews. Or Abe Foxman of the ADL telling all who would listen that the Gospels were anti-Semitic. Or the entire ADL effort (assisted by some self-hating Christian theologians) to censor Gibson's film precisely because it is faithful to the Gospels' depiction of the Passion. When people outside my faith presume to tell me what I may believe, or claim that the Gospels are "anti-Semitic," that's offensive.

I'm glad Gibson is succeeding, in spite of the hate campaign against him.

54 posted on 01/20/2004 11:00:01 AM PST by Thorin
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