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1 posted on 12/08/2003 11:59:52 AM PST by luvbach1
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You're just now asking this question?
2 posted on 12/08/2003 12:01:16 PM PST by aynrandfreak
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Yes, they beat themselves daily as remorse for being proved wrong, and they hold you up on a pedestal as representing all that is right in the world.

(Does that scratch your itch?)

4 posted on 12/08/2003 12:05:10 PM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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Freeper confession:

When I was following this case I had a hard time believing that Westerfield was the killer. I felt this way up until his conviction. When the evidence that he almost pleed to a lesser charge came out I changed my mind. I am in the court of public opinion and entitled to feel as I did back then and after.

I never pressured others into agreeing with me unlike some did.

I think I owe how I felt to being a mom and concerned about how the Van Dams activities led Danielle to be a target. I regret I did not respect them a little more but till this day I still dont respect them and their lifestyle. The bottom line is had they been better parents their beautiful daughter would still be alive and again ..I am entitled to that opinion.

THANKS : )
6 posted on 12/08/2003 12:09:00 PM PST by alisasny (Hope to see many of you at the NY Holiday party on 12/28)
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"With the passage of time and the conviction of Westerfield, do those who shot down every hypothesis offered for Westerfield's guilt have any second thoughts?"

Well, no, and no.

But first, a clarification:
For my part I did not (knowingly) "shoot down" theories that included westerfield's guilt.
I did (attempt to) point out to all concerned that being accurssed is NOT being convicted.
Further, that there were oddities and conflicts in the reported events (news versus courtroom).
And, that the mommy and daddy were not exactly models of family values.

I still find myself steaming when this or another site start the lynch mob rant over Scott Peterson and, previously, Gary Condit.
I do not know if they, any of them, are or are not guilty but I damn sure do not ever want to be ACCUSED of anything and have it discussed in this forum.

We can discuss the end of days, world hunger, or nuclear war and come away friends, but any mention of scandal or pedophilia (admittedly, the worst crime I can imagine) and somebody gets convicted ten minutes into the debate and those who disagree are asked questions like the one above.

Now, ask me what I think about Michael Jackson.
hint...
Guilty as hell.

11 posted on 12/08/2003 12:23:04 PM PST by norton
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I have a feeling that we will see similiar threads on the Elizabeth Smart story as it comes out.

I think those who claim that Elizabeth ran away will get very loud and nasty as the trial begins.

And after all the facts come out and the guilty verdict is handed down, most of them will see the light and admit that she was in fact abducted.
17 posted on 12/08/2003 1:43:03 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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With the passage of time and the conviction of Westerfield, do those who shot down every hypothesis offered for Westerfield's guilt have any second thoughts?

Nope.

19 posted on 12/08/2003 5:15:02 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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Do Westerfield Groupies have Second Thoughts?

I don't have 'second' thoughts about Westerfield's guilt...I do have 'second' thoughts about being associated with people who assume a person's guilt from what the media feeds them.

22 posted on 12/08/2003 9:47:03 PM PST by Krodg
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Further, they took heated issue with, including ridiculing, any who argued that since someone definitely did it, and since the evidence pointed to Westerfield, scenarios of how he could have committed the crime held validity.

As it turned out, one of those scenarios was close to the truth.

Which scenario??

23 posted on 12/08/2003 9:58:42 PM PST by Krodg
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