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New info on the Red Sea Crash from a poster on Airliners.net (unknown credibility):

According to the Al-Ahram,An Egyptian news paper, and from the ATC of Sharm AL shake, the aircraft was at 5500 Feet when all the sudden the radar showed that the aircraft started shifting hard to right and left and then dropped 200 feet then started descending to 4000 feet then disappeared. Another interesting thing is the The F/O of the previous flight from Italy to Sharm just before the accident indicated that the aircraft was perfectly fine and working fine with no problems at the long flight from Italy to sharm. The aircraft received a C/d check four month ago. And was leased from ILFC For five years. The victims Included 133 French tourist , one Moracan, one Japanese and 13 crew member in which 6 were on duty and the other 6 were not.

The 6 off-duty Egyptian crew members scare me the most - it was an off-duty crewman who dove Egypt Air 990 into the sea . . .

Also, the text on that Red Sea/Bloody Hand image said something about watching the battles on the Arabian Island . . . there are numerous small islands in the area of the plane crash . . . some are in Saudi Arabian territory (although the term Arabian Island apparently sometimes refers to the whole of the Arabian Peninsula) . . .

[Letitring]

Where is that picture? Do you recall which post number?

[liberallyconservative]

>> "...all the sudden the radar showed that the aircraft started shifting hard to right and left..." <<

I may be reaching here, but could that indicate a struggle at the controls?

[Domestic Church]

"The 6 off-duty Egyptian crew members"

First I've seen this mentioned. There was a plane crash after takeoff in Jamaica Bay NYC right after 9/11 and I think it did some similar manuevers.

[tubavil]

Good points. There was also a recent alert about air terrorism in SA hours before the crash.

[Calpernia]

This article needs to be reviewed. The Crash of EgyptAir 990

Yes, it is long; but VERY informative and a good read.

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/11/langewiesche.htm

My favorite quote in here is from the head of the NTSB, Bernard Loeb. Pulling the nose up is the most intuitive, reflexive thing you can do in an airplane. So when you start hearing arguments like that, you know people are blowing smoke." [re: tail-control failures]

Remember American Airlines 587? Didn't that get blamed for Rudder? Pulling up too hard?