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To: Calpernia
I read a weird book one time where someone did cause earthquakes to happen. God's hammer, or the Hammer of God. Something like that. It was a huge percussion machine, is how I took it, from the books description.Fiction and a stupid book, imo. I would think nukes along any fault line would produce spectacular results. A bomb inside a volcano wouldn't do too much, seems to me. You would have to somehow heat up a volcano and make it explode, right?
5,624 posted on 01/02/2004 7:59:57 PM PST by Letitring
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To: Letitring
I don't know. That stuff is way over my head. I was just playing with words in google....now that the idea is out about belly of the eagle, may mean underground rather than plane.

Then I remembered about the continuous references to Yellowstone. So I was playing with Yellowstone + eagle.

But I don't know anything about what man made devices can do.
5,626 posted on 01/02/2004 8:02:57 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Letitring
Straight from the website of usgs.gov:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/faq/nuclear.html

Q: Can nuclear explosions cause earthquakes?

A: On January 19, 1968, a thermonuclear test, codenamed Faultless, took place in the Central Nevada Supplemental Test Area. The codename turned out to be a poor choice of words because a fresh fault rupture some 1200 meters long was produced. Seismographic records showed that the seismic waves produced by the fault movement were much less energetic than those produced directly by the nuclear explosion.

Analysis of local seismic recordings (within a couple of miles) of nuclear tests at the Nevada Test Site shows that some tectonic stress is released simultaneously with the explosion. Analysis of the seismic wavefield generated by the blast shows the source can be characterized as 70-80 percent dilational (explosive-like) and 20-30 percent deviatoric (earthquake-like). The rock in the vicinity of the thermonuclear device is shattered by the passage of the explosions shock wave. This releases the elastic strain energy that was stored in the rock and adds an earthquake-like component to the seismic wavefield. The possibility of large Nevada Test Site nuclear explosions triggering damaging earthquakes in California was publicly raised in 1969. As a test of this possibility, rate of earthquake occurrence in northern California (magnitude 3.5 and larger) and the known times of the six largest thermonuclear tests (1965-1969) were plotted and it was obvious that no peaks in the seismicity occur at the times of the explosions. This is in agreement with theoretical calculations that transient strain from underground thermonuclear explosions is not sufficiently large to trigger fault rupture at distances beyond a few tens of kilometers from the shot point.

The Indian and Pakastani test sites are approximately 1000 km from the recent Afghanistan earthquake epicenter. The question that has been asked is whether or not the occurrence of these nuclear tests influenced the occurrence of the large earthquake in Afghanistan. The most direct cause-effect relationship is that the passage of the seismic waves, generated by the thermonuclear explosion, through the epicentral region in Afghanistan somehow triggered the earthquake. For example, following the occurrence of the magnitude 7.3 Landers earthquake in southern California on June 28, 1992, the rate of seismicity in several seismically active regions in the western US, as far as 1250 km from the epicenter, abruptly increased coincident with the passage of the earthquake generated seismic wavefield through each site. The abrupt increases in seismicity occurred primarily in regions of geothermal activity and recent volcanism. The mechanism by which this occurred remains unknown. The Afghanistan earthquake occurred at 06:22:28 UT on May 30, 1998 and the thermonuclear test most closely associated in time occurred at 06:55 UT or after the occurrence of the earthquake. The other nuclear tests occurred 2-20 days before the earthquake.

The elastic strains induced in the epicentral region by the passage of the seismic wavefield generated by the largest of the nuclear tests, the May 11 Indian test with an estimated yield of 40 kilotons, is about 100 times smaller than the strains induced by the Earth's semi-diurnal (12 hour) tides that are produced by the gravitational fields of the Moon and the Sun. If small nuclear tests could trigger an earthquake at a distance of 1000 km, equivalent-sized earthquakes, which occur globally at a rate of several per day, would also be expected to trigger earthquakes. No such triggering has been observed. Thus there is no evidence of a causal connection between the nuclear testing and the large earthquake in Afghanistan and it is pure coincidence that they occurred near in time and location.

One last point. The largest underground thermonuclear tests conducted by the US were detonated in Amchitka at the western end of the Aleutian Islands and the largest of these was the 5 megaton codename Cannikin test which occurred on November 6, 1971. Cannikin had a body wave magnitude of 6.9 and it did not trigger any earthquakes in the seismically active Aleutian Islands. Suggested reading: "Nuclear Explosions and Earthquake, the Parted Veil", by Bruce A. Bolt, W. H. Freeman and Co., San Francisco, 1976.


5,628 posted on 01/02/2004 8:05:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Letitring
If you could push the tetonic plate being subducted with the same force that occurs naturally by the pushing of another tetonic plate then yes you could cause a volcanic eruption. But that is not something humans can do so for now it is impossible.
5,643 posted on 01/02/2004 8:25:36 PM PST by mindspy
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To: Letitring; All
HOLY COW! MAJOR "pieces coming together" time..

- AQ (in their last "official" warning about the < Feb attack) said it would "break the back" of the US

- Some other warning (I think this one was also in an "official" statement vs. 'net babble) talked about the US being "broken[?]/separated[?]" into 3 parts.

- The St. Louis "wire" issue, and speculation about it possibly being a wire put in place for a suitcase nuke [as speculated by others in this thread] and someone's reference to it being on some faultline (New Madrid or something like that?)

I finally went to bed for the first time in a few weeks last night feeling that some of the danger had passed, due to the UK article talking about the plot being AQ planning to blow up airliners. I (foolishly?) thought.."gee..they don't have WMD after all". BUT..maybe this is disinfo put out to calm the sheeples? After all, I'm sure that at least a few US and UK gov't agencies at least peruse these and many other boards and probably see us coming up with some very possible (and nightmarish) possibilities and need to do their own "crowd control".
5,757 posted on 01/03/2004 5:39:49 AM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: Letitring
Tesla supposedly invented something that was able to do this and I read on FR that it was tested here in the US long long ago...it worked.
5,780 posted on 01/03/2004 8:44:15 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...I keep thinking about OBL's Balkan ties and Tesla's heritage)
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