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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 9:40am
Subject: Does this remind you of the question we asked about the next (bush clan target!)

 
here goes again.......israel is asking america to fight for her
again.....go america....ur being ruled by israel! wake up people!!




DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Syria's official press slammed President Bush
(news - web sites)'s call for democracy in the Middle East on
Saturday, saying freedom could not be imposed by force and that Arabs
did not need lessons on democracy.



Bush challenged foes Iran and Syria as well as key ally Egypt on
Thursday to adopt democracy, saying past U.S. policies of supporting
non-democratic Middle East leaders had failed.

But analysts said Bush mainly criticized U.S. foes rather than the
region's least democratic states.

In a front page editorial, Syria's daily al-Thawra newspaper accused
Washington of trying to act as a regional guardian.

"The American administration is practicing the role of guardian over
sovereign states. Threatening to impose democracy by force kills
democracy and assassinates freedom," it said.

"The people of the region are not in need of lessons in democracy and
freedom."

Syrian-U.S. ties are strained over accusations by Washington that
Damascus is turning a blind eye to militants crossing its borders into
Iraq (news - web sites) to fight U.S. troops. Bush has blamed "foreign
terrorists" in part for a wave of violence in Iraq.

Syria, which said on Wednesday relations with Washington were the most
negative in years, says it is working to secure the border, and called
on the United States to do the same on the Iraqi side.

Syria also questioned how Washington can call for democracy in the
Middle East while it is occupying an Arab state.

"Can there be a democratic revolution by occupying sovereign
countries' land? Can it be by jets and cannons and destructive
weapons?" the paper said.

"This speech...is not in the interests of the United States of America
at all, and it is not in the interest of the region."

Syria is also under heavy U.S. pressure for its backing of Lebanese
Hizbollah guerrillas and Palestinian groups opposed to Israel, which
last month bombed what it said was a training camp for militants deep
in Syria for the first time in 30 years.

The U.S. House of Representatives also voted last month to impose
diplomatic and economic sanctions on Syria until the White House says
it no longer supports "terrorists."

If the Senate approves the measure as is expected, Bush could sign it
into law.


alaah akbaar
daleel_almojahid
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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 1:20pm
Subject: Afghan Prisoners Beaten to Death at US Interrogation Base (we wont forget u)

 
Afghan Prisoners Beaten to Death at US Military Interrogation Base

Two prisoners who died while being held for interrogation at the US
military base in Afghanistan had apparently been beaten, according to
a military pathologist's report. A criminal investigation is now under
way into the deaths which have both been classified as homicides.

The deaths have led to calls for an inquiry into what interrogation
techniques are being used at the base where it is believed the
al-Qaida leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, is now also being held.
Former prisoners at the base claim that detainees are chained to the
ceiling, shackled so tightly that the blood flow stops, kept naked and
hooded and kicked to keep them awake for days on end.

The two men, both Afghans, died last December at the US forces base in
Bagram, north of Kabul, where prisoners have been held for
questioning. The autopsies found they had suffered "blunt force
injuries" and classified both deaths as homicides.

A spokesman for the Pentagon said yesterday it was not possible to
discuss the details of the case because of the proceeding
investigation. If the investigation finds that the prisoners had been
unlawfully killed during interrogation, it could lead to both civil
and military prosecutions. He added that it was not clear whether only
US personnel had had access to the men.

One of the dead prisoners, known only as Dilawar, died as a result of
"blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary
artery disease", according to the death certificate signed by Major
Elizabeth Rouse, a pathologist with the Washington-based Armed Forces
Institute of Pathology, which operates under the auspices of the
defence department. The dead man was aged 22 and was a farmer and
part-time taxi-driver. He was said to have had an advanced heart
condition and blocked arteries.

Chris Kelly, a spokesman for the institute, said yesterday that their
pathologists were involved in all cases on military bases where there
were unusual or suspicious deaths. He was not aware of any other
homicides of prisoners held since September 11. He said that the
definition of homicide was "death resulting from the intentional or
grossly reckless behaviour of another person or persons" but could
also encompass "self-defence or justifiable killings".

The death certificates for the men have four boxes on them giving
choices of "natural, accident, suicide, homicide". The Pentagon said
yesterday that the choice of "homicide" did not necessarily mean that
the dead person had been unlawfully killed. There was no box which
would indicate that a pathologist was uncertain how a person had died.

It is believed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as the number
three in al-Qaida, is being interrogated at Bagram. He is said to have
started providing information about the possible whereabouts of Osama
bin Laden whom he is said to have met in Pakistan last month. Most
al-Qaida suspects are being held outside the US which means that they
are not entitled to access to the US judicial system.

Two former prisoners at the base, Abdul Jabar and Hakkim Shah, told
the New York Times this week that they recalled seeing Dilawar at
Bagram. They said that they had been kept naked, hooded and shackled
and were deprived of sleep for days on end. Mr Shah said that American
guards kicked him to stop him falling asleep and that on one occasion
he had been kicked by a woman interrogator, while her male colleague
held him in a kneeling position.

The commander of the coalition forces in Afghanistan, General Daniel
McNeill, said that prisoners were made to stand for long periods but
he denied that they were chained to the ceiling. "Our interrogation
techniques are adapted," he said.

"They are in accordance with what is generally accepted as
interrogation techniques, and if incidental to the due course of this
investigation, we find things that need to be changed, we will
certainly change them."

In January, in his state of the union address, President George Bush
announced that "3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many
countries" and "many others have met a different fate" and "are no
longer a problem to the United States".

The other death being investigated is that of Mullah Habibullah, the
brother of a former Taliban commander. His death certificate indicates
that he died of a pulmonary embolism, or a blood clot in the lung.

..............................................
the revenge is on the way.

alaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah akbaaar
daleel_almojahid
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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 1:30pm
Subject: THIS IS THE 2ND REMINDER TO ALL MUSLIMS TO LEAVE THE USA

 
ALSALAAM ALAYKOM WA RAHMAT ALAH WA BARAKATO...


(WE FIGHT ASKING FOR GODS HEAVENS AND ALMOSHREKEEN FIGHT ASKING FOR
THE DEVALS MONEY AND WEALTH)

(WE FIGHT WITH GODS PROMISE AND THEY FIGHT WITH BUSH'S PROMISE)

OH GOD THE MOST POWERFULL IN YOUR HANDS WE FIGHT.


ALAAH AKBAAR ALAAAH AKBAAR ALAAAH AKBAAAR

THIS IS THE 2ND CALL FOR MUSLIMS IN THE USA TO START LEAVING SOON FROM
L.A , THE EAST SIDE, AND NEW YORK.

ALAAAAH AKBAAR ALAAAH AKBAAR ALAAH AKBAAR


TO BUSH AND HIS BLACK HOUSE GANG...YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE MOJAHIDEEN
VERY SOON.


ALAAH AKBAAR'
DALEEL_ALMOJAHID

1,236 posted on 11/08/2003 1:54:08 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: tubavil
Shouldn't it be ...STILL threatens...?

Get used to it.
1,240 posted on 11/08/2003 2:15:11 PM PST by skull stomper (Did you want some bacon with that abdullah?.)
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To: tubavil; bonesmccoy; Sabertooth; Mossad1967; Alouette; Cindy; MarMema; JustPiper; Calpernia; ...
New messages up at the Daleel_Al-Mojahid_ Yahoo group. Hi Daleel!!!

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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:08am
Subject: Taliban Mujahideen warn US to quit Afghanistan alaah akbaar

 
The Taliban issued a new warning Monday to US lead invaders and the
Afghan Munafiq's who support them.

Leaflets containing the message were distributed near the southern
Afghan border town of Spin Boldak and Pakistan's southern town of
Chaman Monday, witnesses said.



"We advise US forces to leave Afghanistan immediately as the Afghan
people cannot be purchased with dollars."

"We again warn these people, cease supporting America or your lives
will remain in danger, and the Taliban Mujahideen would kill each one
of you alongside the Americans."

The leaflet was signed by several officials of the Taliban Mujahideen:
Mullah Akthar Mohammad Usmani, a deputy of Mullah Omar, and Taliban
commander for southern Afghanistan Mullah Abdur Rahim, Mullah Bradar,
Mulla Abdur Rauf and Hafiz Adur Rahim.

Previous such leaflets have urged Afghans, the army and the police to
join the Taliban in a struggle against the government of President
Hamid Karzai and U.S.-led forces.

"We will inflict a humiliating defeat that will be recorded in history."

"We are determined that the Afghan masses will never accept foreign
law and oppression and the US rule will remain only on paper," the
pamphlet written in the local Pashto language said.

alaah akbaaar
daleel_almojahid
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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:04am
Subject: A U.S. official said on Monday the al Qaeda network was trying to topple Al-saud

 
(Reuters) - A U.S. official said on Monday the al Qaeda network was
trying to topple the pro-Western Saudi government and royal family,
but Riyadh vowed militants would not destabilize the world biggest oil
exporter. "It is quite clear to me that al Qaeda wants to take down
the royal family and the government of Saudi Arabia," U.S. Deputy
Secretary of State Richard Armitage told Al Arabiya television,
excerpts of which were broadcast on Monday


.........................................................

you are really smart armitage! did you just discover that!!

alaaah akbaaaaaaar....islam is coming back....and the wind of change
started to blow.

alaah akbaar
daleel_almojahid
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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:55am
Subject: Mr. so called jayrenolds (bushcountry) THE MOJAHIDEEN WISH YOU A HAPPY FOOLS DAY

 
THIS IS THE NEWS THAT SO CALLED JAYRENOLDS THOUGHT HE WAS SMART ENOUGH
TO GET OUT !!.... THE MOJAHIDEEN WISH YOU A REAL FOOLS DAYS!!
YOU WILL FIND AT THE END OUR RESPONSE TO PIGS LIKE JAY AND ANYONE THAT
TRYS TO ACT SMART...FOOLS...ALAAAAAAH AKBAAAAAR.


Al Qaeda Source Informs Under Cover Bush Country Reporter "We Have
Everything Ready And Set" And To "Move Out And Go North"
By Jeremy Reynalds (bio)

Other Articles by Jeremy Reynalds
Back to News / Home Page

A new message was posted Monday by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked
Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York,
Washington and Los Angeles in advance of threatened major al Qaeda
attacks in those cities.

The warning was reported by www.debka.com, a respected "Internet
publication devoted to independent, investigative reporting and
forward analysis in the fields of international terrorism,
intelligence, international conflict, Islam, military affairs,
security and politics."

A similar message also appeared Monday on a Yahoo! Group bulletin
board (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Daleel_Al-Mojahid_/message/18).
Apparently posted by Daleel Almojahid, it read "This is the last call
for Muslims in New York, the east side and Los Angeles to start
leaving. The mojahideen (sic) are now ready to teach the US a lesson
it will never forget."

A similar message was received by this reporter when under the guise
of being a Molsem sympathetic to the cause he wrote to Almojahid that
he wanted to help. "I have funds to buy what you need to kill the
kaffir. I need bank account, wiring instructions and location..."

The response received from Almojahid by this reporter read , "We are
more than thankful for the sweet words you wrote, but we have
everything ready and set thank you so much and please make your plans
to move out if you are in the cities of LA, NY or the east side. Go
north as much as possible as you know this is a war. May God protect
you and protect all our brothers and sisters."

Almojahid posted a subsequent message on his Yahoo! Group account.
Headlined "You have to understand this is a war your government had
started," it read in part:

"I know that a lot of innocent people and Muslims are within these
cities but you have to understand that this is a war your government
had started. They have killed more than 2,000,000 Muslims in the past
12 years alone, 500,000 kids died in Iraq since 1990! What would you
do if 2,000,000 Americans died from Muslims who are just attacking for
money and oil and more wealth to their country! A lot of people asked
me how much more time is there. I can only tell you get out as soon as
you can. This is a war."

Debka File reported that the al-Qaeda linked al-Islah group (with whom
Almojahid may or may not be connected) accused the United States of
sealing its own fate with its policies. It read in part, "The Jews
rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims
being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should
therefore expect more blows."

According to the Debka File, the message was signed on behalf of the
al Bayan (The Threat) movement by "your warrior brother, Abul Hassan
al Khadrami".

According to Debka, the name of the signatory belonged to a Yemeni
from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens' place of origin where Osama bin
Laden is widely supported.

Debka reported that the publication's counter-terror sources emphasize
these warnings are taken seriously but with caution by the
intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network's
electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message
to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands – understands;
whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that
will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel
was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed
shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner
at Mombasa airport, Debka reported.

Jeremy Reynalds is a freelance writer and the founder and director of
Joy Junction, New Mexico's largest emergency homeless shelter. He has
a master's degree in communication from the University of New Mexico
and is pursuing his PhD in intercultural education at Biola University
in Los Angeles. He is married with five children and lives in
Albuquerque, New Mexico. His work can be viewed here and weekly at
www.americasvoices.org. He may be contacted by e-mail at
reynalds@j...
11.05.03 10:49 AM




AND THIS IS OUR MESSEGE FROM THE MOJAHIDEEN TO JAYRENOLDS AND ALL THE
PIGS OF HIS SORT,

you think you have information thats not public !!

by the well of god and the hands of the mojahideen the coming hit wont
be stopable at all.

you think years of well planing will be stoppable!!! you still dont
know the mojahideen. and i will keep reminding you that you still dont
know the mojahideen..but you will see thier light and hear there loud
bang very very soon when everything becomes black smoke.!!



alaah akbaaar and the power to god him self and no one else.............

daleel_almojahid

1,288 posted on 11/10/2003 10:37:34 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: tubavil
The following is from:

http://aoreport.com/news71terrordates.htm

I don't know that the Arabic writing will post right. It looks like it's not going to display the Arabic writing correctly and I don't have time to figure out how to get it to. If someone else cares to bother, please feel free. Blessings,

I like the analysis and detail in this link not found in several others.




Possible Terrorist Attack Dates



11/8/03

[Ed Note: Before we could get this article posted to the website – breaking news reports indicates a terrorist attack has hit Saudi Arabia. Apparently the Ramadan Campaign has begun?]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031109/D7UMQ8480.html


Here at The Alpha-Omega Report we have gone into overdrive in monitoring intelligence reports that are analyzing various recent Internet discussion forum postings and chat room chatter by fanatic Muslim organizations.

As we look at the overall theme of these messages we’ve begun to conclude that there is some merit to the notion that these messages are seriously real and may have validity because in part of what we’ve learned elsewhere regarding some of the Islamic prophecy doctrines held by extremists. We say this because the mainstream Islamic religion has very little to do with prophetic writings because there is virtually none in the Koran. However, the extremist Wahabi sect in Saudi Arabia seems to have invented their own “historical” prophecies of the prophet Mohammed.

Now, we take no stock in such prophecies in and of themselves. We do however note that these terrorists do take stock of it and therefore it would be a good idea to monitor the situation to gain insight into their mindset.

In addition to their prophecies which they believe point to this year of Ramadan for events to unfold heralding an Islamic “saviour” to appear we note their predictions also coincide with astronomical events both already happened or about to happen.

Now because these terrorists have issued repeated warnings over a two week period to fellow Muslims to immediately evacuate themselves from New York, Washington, and Los Angeles we find it important to take a closer look at the rest of their recent online chattering.

(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102179,00.html).

Some of our intelligence sources monitoring the terroristic chatter includes the website of The Northeast Intelligence Network. This site has provided extensive coverage to its readership including posting actual Arabic lettering and translations.

Their coverage includes:

A Fatwa Edict entitled: “A Warning to Muslims in America,” issued by the Al-Islah (Reform) society. It stated in part a warning to “our Muslim brothers in America we request from you and very quickly the departure from these cities an immediately -- Washington City, New York City, and Los Angeles city.

http://www.hagmannpi.com/Update%200916.htm#Ramadan0916

The Northeast Intelligence Network notes many other messages posted which indicate that this year’s Ramadan will be uniquely different than other Ramadan holiday periods. In fact one of these sources indicating such a difference was Hamas Sheik Ahmad Yassin who apparently claims to be some sort of a “prophet” who predicts that America will be destroyed during Ramadan this year

(http://www.hagmannpi.com/Hamas.htm#Yassin).

If that were not enough yet another Jihad group Al Ansar stated in a different posting to a discussion forum that:

…”messages from Al Qaeda Network in Yemen …

…”execution of three greatest operations during the holy month of Ramadan ... Brothers and sisters I greet you, as you have noticed the splitting of the moon in two marks the start of the biggest operation of all, it is expected that America will be fragmented into 3 parts, I swear to Allah on this, I swear to Allah that the US will be divided...

Here is another related message text:

An urgent news from the jihad rule in Yemen, the Al-Asad messages coded...


XXX and a XXX declared that they received messages from Al Qaeda Network in Yemen that points to the messages of the fighting Sheikh Osama bin Ladin who transmitted last week were coded messages with directions for the execution of three greatest operations during the holy month of Ramadan ...

Allah is the greatest

Allah is the greatest

Allah is the greatest




Oh Allah complete your support

Oh Allah repay he threw your monotheist slaves

Oh Allah we used and do not replace us

Oh Allah you are to the Mujaheed good and helpful

Oh Allah tie on their hearts

Oh Allah that they left chased in the land to the support
of your religion then support them O a great

Oh Allah keep our sheikh and our lover Abu Abd Allah

Oh Allah make its words a fire on the polytheists a light on the monotheism people

Oh Allah give our hands to your way
Allah is the greatest thanks to God

( ( I swear by the great Allah who raised the sky without an intention that America and the west world will not dream of its capture with the security what did not enjoy it a falling in Palestine and the Islamic world ) )

My father and my mother redeemed you O our sheikh the hero

Three greatest operations

Brothers and sisters I greet you, as you have noticed the splitting of the moon in two marks the start of the biggest operation of all, it is expected that America will be fragmented into 3 parts, I swear to Allah on this, I swear to Allah that the US will be divided...


A Warning to Muslims in America
Source: Al-Islah (Reform) society

By the saying in the name of Allah ( he glorified Allah what in me the skies and what in me earth and he the wise noble .He a that brought out these that disbelieved from the People of the Book from their houses of the beginning of Doomsday what you thought that they leave and thought that them their preventing is their fortresses from Allah then Allah came them regarding not they count and threw in their hearts the terror they ruin their houses by their hands and the believers hands then learn you O the insightful peoples ) the great Allah was truthful and a glory be to Allah and with its praise the glory be to of great Allah

And the prayer and the greeting on a master Mohammad and on its family and accompanied it and the Muslims as a wholes .. And after ..

He does not become obscure to you O our brothers are what he suffers your Muslim brothers and the Mujahid in the places of the world from a coercion and an injustice and a tyranny and families and its pursuer and a killing and a displacement.

From the masters power of injustice and the lying by the world America rulers who think they themselves are that they master a making, and Allah testifies that they write America end by their hands. Then there they submit back the Zionist plans without an insight or its references until became America today defense ministry she moves by the Israeli remote. And what are Afghanistan and Iraq about you by a little after then their sons there frustrated and defeated wonder ( what we were still here ) yes they are sole who be taught the bitter truth and how no and they watch daily in front of their eyes tens of casualties from their friends the soldiers die not sorry about them until bestowed is.

Their foolish rulers then hear a lying and forgery and the forgery of their rulers on their nation and on the world nations about number of their casualties and their heavy losses (and also we made in village all the nobles of its criminals so that they deceive in it and what they deceive except by their souls and what they feel) the great Allah was truthful and enough Allah and the agent how excellent.

A Lord say the seven skies master and the Lord of earth and the Lord of the Throne ( and they deceived and Allah and Allah deceived the Best of Planners ) the great Allah was truthful.

Our Muslim brothers in America we request from you and very quickly the departure from these cities an immediately :

Washington City, New York City, and Los Angeles city.

And since we declare that so that we confirm for you that we are serious about our warning this ..And the coming days the correctness of this warning will withstand to you
And we are walking in our jihad way for the defense for the Islam flag and if the unbelievers hated

As for our speech of the unjust rulers of America then we say: they waited our conditions after the first hitting to Allah soldiers the believers

Say then they waited verily me with you from the waiting
You fight them that Allah torture by your hands and pricks them and supports you on them and copies believing people chests

These he said for them the people verily the people have they gathered for you then you fear them then bestowed on them a belief and said enough we Allah and how excellent the agent

Oh Allah forgive for us our sins and our extravagance in our matter and fixed our feet and support us against the people the unbelieving

The great Allah was truthful
Oh Allah did I tell oh Allah then testify
And peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it

The movement of the Islamic clarification: 5 Ramadan 1424

An urgent photographed it to the Arab and west masses media
An urgent photographed it to the forums and the Arab and west sites

Below is a note from the Northeast Intelligence Network

The Coding of an Attack

Prior to previous and significant terrorist attacks, a "coded message" was posted on an Arabic forum. This message cryptically referred to a series of numbers and in particular, "Four-four" or "4 4." The following is an incomplete listing of forum messages, supplemented by information concerning the consequential or "planned" attacks believed to be referenced by the "4 4" message. The resurrection of the "4 4" message and references thereto are being noted in Islamic Jihad messages. The following is a compilation of messages, with notations made by analysts. The information is being analyzed for consideration in the possible attacks in the US during Ramadan 2003. Analysts note: although there are three locations of interest- New York, Washington, DC and Los Angeles, CA, analysts are considering the following scenario:

An initial "blast from the sea" may strike the east coast of New York, possibly in a harbor and/or near the New York-New Jersey border. The nature of this blast will most likely be radiological in nature. Following this blast, it is expected that some type of communication by terrorists will be attempted with US leaders. Failing that, a rapid succession of blasts could occur at the "remaining" locations. For those readers keeping count, this would account for only three (3) attacked cities or sites.

Analysts are split between a "fourth" blast in tandem with the third (i.e. Los Angeles AND the Silicone Valley area of California) ---or a "fourth blast elsewhere in the US, possibly at a United States landmark. Considering the latter, analysts have noted an obvious interest with Yellowstone National Park, which is the site of active earth-seismic activity. The following cryptic messages have been used to consider the various possible scenarios:


"The butchery will come"

ÞÇÆÏåã .. ÇáÔíÎ ÃÓÇãÉ íÍÝÙå Çááå .. íÃãÑåã .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
The leader, Sheikh Osama god praise him he commands them 4 4

æÎáÇíÇ " ÞÇÚÏÊå " íäÝÐæä ÃæÇãÑå .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And the operatives of his cells, obey him , 4 4

ÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÌæ .. !
4 in the skies..!

æÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÈÑ .. !
4 on land..!

æÃÑÈÚÇ Ýí ÇáÈÍÑ .. !
And 4 in the sea..!

ÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÃãÑíßÇ .. " ÌæÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
It exploded in America in the air 4 4..! (Referring to 9/11 - Four hijacked airliners in the United States)

æÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÇáÑíÇÖ " ÃÑÖÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
It exploded in Riyadh on land 4 4..! (Referring to four terrorist bombings on Monday, 12 May 2003 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, killing at least 34 people and injuring hundreds of others. The string of attacks occurred in quick succession; the fourth explosion occurred early Tuesday morning outside the headquarters of a joint U.S.-Saudi owned company in the Saudi capital.

æÝÌÑæåÇ Ýí ÇáãÛÑÈ ÃÑÖÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And it exploded on land in Morroco 4 4..! (Referring to four blasts that hit Casablanca, Morocco within 30 minutes of each other on Friday, 16 May 2003, killing approximately 40 people and injuring at least 100 more. Four targets were the Hotel Safir, a Jewish community center, a Spanish restaurant and the Belgian consulate. Morocco's Interior Minister Mustapha Sahel said there were similarities between the bombings in Casablanca and Riyadh.

Contemporaneous Message found during the attack at Casablanca:

"Four explosions shake Casablanca in Morocco and number of the casualties are 4 hitting 5 =20 until now...Four four she shakes the defeatists..."

Followed by: And tomorrow Yemen is four four

æÃä ÔÇÁ Çááå Ýí ÇáÞÑíÈ ...ÚÔÑå ÚÔÑå Ýí Çáíãä
And god willing 10 10 in Yemen
Yemen: Plotted Attacks Foiled; August 2003: Four types of attacks: (1) shoulder-launched surface-air missile fire directed at passenger planes during takeoff or landing; (2) the hijacking of airliners for crashing down over city centers; (3) the downing of light planes loaded with explosives; (4) the detonation of bomb vehicles or suicide bombers at commercial, shopping or tourist centers.

And its considering Egypt four four

I smile .. Four .. Four ..!

I supplicate for the Mujaheed .. Four .. Four ..!

And Allah rewarded all .. Four .. Four ..!

Remaining messages containing numerical referencs:

æÃä ÔÇÁ Çááå Ýí ÇáÞÑíÈ ...ÚÔÑæä ...ÚÔÑæä Ýí ãÕÑ
And god willing 20 20 in Egypt

æÇáÞÇÏã ÈÅÐä Çááå " ÈÍÑÇð " .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And the next will be via sea 4 4..!

íÝÌÑæäåÇ .. ãßÈÑíä " Çááå ÃßÈÑ " ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
They make it explode and say 'Allahu Akbar' 4 4..!

æÇáÞÇÕãÉ ÞÑíÈÇ Ýí ÃãÑíßÇ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And soon in America 4 4..!

æåÇ ÃäÇ Çáíæã ÃÈÊÓã .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ !
Today I smile 4 4..!

æÛÏÇ ÓæÝ ÃÖÍß áäÕÑ ÇáãÄãäíä ÈÅÐä Çááå .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
And tomorrow I will laugh at the triumph of the believers 4 4..!

Ýááå ÇáÍãÏ æÇáãäÉ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. ÃÑÈÚ .. !
Thank god 4 4..!

Åääí ÃÈÊÓã .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÃÚáì ..
I smile, god is great

ÇáÚÏæ íÖÑÈ ãä Úáæ .. æÃäÊ ÇáÃÚáì .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÃÚáì ..
The enemy hits from high above, but you [god] are higher, god is great

Åääí ÃäÊÙÑ äÕÑß ÇáÚÙíã .. ÓÈÍÇäß ÑÈí ÇáÚÙíã ..
I await your great victory, god is great

ÓÇáÊäí Ýí ÍãÇäÇ ÙÈíÉ 000 ÇÊÍÈ ÇáÔæÞ Ýí Úíäí ÕÈíÉ

ÞáÊ áÇÇÚÔÞ ÍÓäÇ ÙåÑÇ 000 Çæ ÇÑì ÇáÍÈ ÚíæäÇ äÑÌÓíÉ

ÇäãÇ ÇÚÔÞ ÕÏÑÇ ÚÇãÑÇ 000 íÍãá ÇáãæÊ æíÒåæ ÈÇáãäíÉ

ÇÏÑßÊ ÓÑí æÞÇáÊ ÙÈíÊí 000 ÇäÊå áÇÊÚÔÞ ÛíÑ ÇáÈäÏÞíÉ

íÑÝÚ áÊÎÑÌ ßá ÇáÝÆÑÇä æÇáÌÑÐÇä

ÇáÖÑÈÉ ÇáÇæáì ßÇäÊ ÇÑÈÚ 00 ÇÑÈÚ
the first strike was 4 00 4
ÇáÖÑÈÉ ÇáËÇäíÉ ßÇäÊ ÇÑÈÚ 00 ÇÑÈÚ
the second strike was 4 00 4
ÇáÖÑÈÇÊ ÇáÞÇÏãÉ Çä ÔÇÁ ÇáÞæí ÇáÍáíã ÓÊßæä ÇÑÈÚ 00 ÇÑÈÚ
the next strikes will be 4 00 4

æÇáÞÇÓãÉ ÓÊßæä Çä ÔÇÁ Çááå ÇÑÈÚ 00 ÇÑÈÚ

ÝÞæáæÇ ãÚí
Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ áÇÇáå ÇáÇ Çááå
god is great
Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ Çááå ÇßÈÑ ÕÏÞ æÚÏå æäÕÑ ÌäÏå æåÒã ÇáÇÍÒÇÈ æÍÏå

To confirm this see the Northeast Intelligence Network link below:



http://www.hagmannpi.com/Threats%20to%20US.htm#Warning

There is so much more equally stunning data on the NIN website that you can see for yourself by clicking the link below;

http://www.hagmannpi.com/Ramadan1424.htm#Prelude


Significant Dates We Are Watching

So it would seem that the stage apparently has indeed been set for some kind of action. Why? It is hard for us to think that such rhetoric would simply be empty chest-beating. If you are going to make such claims you better make sure you put your actions where your mouth is or at some point, you will lose credibility with your hometown crowd, your supporters and well-wishers who will otherwise think you are merely blowing ‘hot-air.’ So, we’d be inclined to think these folks are not reciting empty words.

But if that is not enough to garner our attention we should recall other key indicators such as those from Osama bin Laden himself. Do you recall those recent audio and video tapes he made talking about further actions against America? He seems to do this before Al Qaeda launches major actions, in part to provide a coverscreen to issue coded orders to begin new operations or so we are told by the “intell” boys.

Osama and his Egyptian sidekick have talked about a “black wind” that would sweep over the enemies of Islam. He’s talking about a divine judgment from Allah that will send the enemies to an Islamic “hell where their faces will be blackened. Such an event will coincide with arrival of an Islamic “messiah” figure called the Al Mahdi an Imam who will rise up to defeat the infidels and unbelievers who threaten to destroy Islam.

While some Christians are wondering if maybe bin Laden is going to be the Antichrist, we think not but it would seem that the Saudi sheik is indeed trying to line himself into that position. We think not that is should Osama indeed die either as a martyr or if indeed as some media reports indicate – his health is in serious decline and perhaps unable to live long enough to lead any war against the West. Now we do wonder though if his Egyptian doctor, Zawahir Hawas might be the antichrist or perhaps a false prophet of some sort?

Regardless of the status of either man or others within Islam the question at hand we want to share is this: What kind of time frame are these people planning to implement an attack?

Remember that from all of these various postings and Islamic chatter we understand that this Ramadan period (which ends on November 25th) is the unique one for meeting the prophetic criteria for perhaps several decades, so its “now or never” if these guys intend to envelope their campaign is true Islamic holiness. If so, then what specific dates would seem most likely for matching up with the “prophetic Islamic” doctrines to make this Ramadan the fulfillment of prophecy?

Well two keys in the prophecy refer to 2 eclipses. One eclipse is a lunar eclipse – a “blood red” moon eclipse occurring November 8-9th at night in the USA. The second eclipse is a solar event on November 23rd.

As far as we know, there is nothing in the Islamic prophecies about a meteor shower but there will also be the Leonid meteor shower during the week of November 16th with a peak night of the 19th.

Keep in mind too that we’ve been reporting those massive X-Class solar flares that have manifested themselves over the past two weeks along with their accompanying “northern lights” displays. Those were caused by certain sunspot areas on the solar surface that have now rotated out of view from earth but will be coming back around in the next 10-14 days and they may well come back around as strong as before and who knows, they may be even stronger. This could be a real wild-card/joker in the deck as far as influencing symbols that might further ‘wow’ the muslim world should such events coincide with major terror action. We point this out in part because this solar activity marks the most stunning solar action in perhaps the last one thousand years and the latest one certainly set a new and unprecedented record in X-class flares. So we definitely should keep that in the back of our minds as we analyze the situation.

Now the more important aspect of these celestial events is the lunar eclipse. Why? It is very central to the Muslim prophecies. In fact, those prophecies state that the particular sign of the messianic Ramadan is when there are two blood-red lunar eclipses in the same year. We had one of those last summer, so therefore this year’s Ramadan truly matches up with the prophecy requirements.

These terrorist postings refer to the Ramadan attacks beginning when the moon is split into two parts. Some of the chatter discusses the notion of what seems to be a radiological ‘dirty’ bomb aboard a ship in a port facility or harbor or a backpack nuclear device.

http://www.hagmannpi.com/Jihad%20Posts.htm#RAMADNUKE

Other chatter speaks of chemical weapons being put into place see link.

http://www.hagmannpi.com/NBC%20WMD.htm

Still other intelligence reports suggest perhaps a biological attack. Of course, NBC News scooped a report of a renewed US governmental concern about air attacks involving stolen air cargo planes being crashed into nuclear power plants, utility operations or other key symbols in the USA itself.

Perhaps the reason the US hasn’t found Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi WMD is because Saddam gave them (or some of them perhaps) to Al Qaeda to be used during this Ramadan period.

One terrorist posting indicated that there would be an initial incident designed to bring America to its knees as a sort of “warning shot across the bow” followed by an ultimatum delivered to US leaders via mass media news outlets (i.e. TV Network News) perhaps Al Jazeera? The ultimatum would demand US retreat immediately out of Iraq and Afghanistan or else more destruction would swiftly follow which would include attacks on 3 other cities.

The speculation of the first city to be attacked would be New York City. The other cities of speculation that are mentioned are Washington DC and Los Angeles. Other posts suggest a fourth city with speculation running from the 4th city being Miami, New Orleans, San Diego or San Francisco but also perhaps even Seattle or Portland. My guess and this is all it is would be San Francisco because of the Golden Gate bridge if for no other reason, should the threats be carried out by ocean freighter attacks.

But When?

Because the lunar eclipse plays so prominently in their thinking we would expect something to happen shortly after the lunar eclipse, perhaps on Sunday the 9th.

It could also however be slated for the 11th which is Veteran’s Day in the USA and it is also the odd reverse of 9-11. Hmm a degree of reverse synchronicity.

One thing we’ve not mentioned about the Islamic prophecies is something called the “Night of Power” which ushers in a messiah figure. Now as we understand it can only happen in the last ten days of Ramadan which means after November 15th. We consider the following possible dates for scrutiny:

1. the 16th of November – a key night in Islamic history when Mohammed knocked down the last pagan idol. It also begins the Leonid Meteor Shower activity or close.

2. The third to last day of Ramadan will be on November 22nd a day when some say the Al Madhi is said to rise up and strike a fatal blow to the infidels. That date does have occultic significance plus it will be the 40th anniversary the JFK assassination and for those in the Illuminati world this is a very, very key date.

3. November 23rd is the day of the solar eclipse and that is the day after the JFK anniversary.

These data points lead us to think that the key dates to watch are:

11/09/03 – just after the blood-red lunar eclipse – a reverse of 9-11

11/11/03 – US Veteran’s Day. Could provide key propaganda points

11/16/03 – a key night of Islamic history – theologically significant

11/22/03 – An significant occultic day and JFK anniversary

11/23/03 – Solar Eclipse

Well, there you have it. The above dates are the ones that we here at A-O are watching with interest. Mind you, we're not date-setting nor are we saying something will even happen. Perhaps those doing the postings on the Islamic militant forums have no real clue as to what they're writing about. Perhaps it is deliberate deception to simply evince fear and thus gain a moral or psychological benefit to their cause. Only time will tell.

Of course, we've also noted the Biblical prophecy aspects in another related article which raises the possibility that we're already into the sixth seal of Revelation chapter 6! That chapter speaks of not only solar activity but also of the stars falling and the moon changing as if an eclipse.

For the Biblical Prophecy Aspects to this blood-red moon eclipse and solar eclipse and also the Leonid Meteor shower … click here

http://aoreport.com/study_bloodredmoon.htm

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1,363 posted on 11/10/2003 7:12:52 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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If any significant attack in the US occoure in the next 2 weeks I will kill a terrorist. LOL These guys are all talk!!
1,368 posted on 11/10/2003 9:00:36 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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A tale of two memos: Hugh Hewitt exposes Democrats' lack of concern for U.S. security
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, November 12, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 11/12/2003 2:32 AM PST by JohnHuang2


A tale of two memos


Posted: November 12, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
1,422 posted on 11/12/2003 3:02:10 AM PST by Cindy
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Quagmire posting by Daleel this morning at the Daleel_Al-Mojahid_ Yahoo group. Hi Daleel!!!

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From: daleel_almojahid <daleel_almojahid@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:59am
Subject: Get ready for a new Islamic era…alaah akbaar

 
To all the Muslims our sisters and brothers asalaam alaykom wa rahmat
alaah wa barakatoo,

Al Nasser has started to show all over Muslim's land's and the light
of Islam has started to shine in the sky's above every occupied part
of our land, the sun of a new era is on the way we can see it so clear
its just a matter of time its just a matter of time.

The latest news we are getting from Iraq is a real blow to the
Americans and their allies. As you have heard the number of Italians
that have died in yesterday's mojahideen attack went up to 24 alaah
akbaar, but the surprising news that's coming from Baghdad that the
amount of mojahideen that are catching up with their fellow's is
increasing ten times!! Alaah akbaar, with every Mojahid being caught
they are having ten more people joining up that are better than the
one before!! Sobhaan alaah.

The other news that the media is covering up is a huge fire fight with
heavy guns and some 17 fighters being shot down in the north of Iraq!!
And this fight has been going on since last night till the time we
wrote this article news bulletin and still going on!!.

We will keep you updated on that story if anything new comes out.

In Saudi Arabia jihad has began against the black family with direct
orders from Sheikh Osama bin laden may god protect him and his
followers to root it out of the Arabian peninsula and this is due to
its worship to the American government and its fight against the
mojahideen. Alaah have said (who ever goes with the infidels is one of
them) and their blood is for the mojahideen to wipe out.

In Afghanistan the news is excellent the Taliban and the Al-Qaida
fighters are taking back part by part and the puppet in the capital
Kabul is seeking fast help from the American government and military,
lets see how they will help him , the Americans are cowards and they
will always be like that.

Sheikh Osama bin laden has given the mojahideen the orders to prepare
for a long war with America and its allies also a war on the family of
Saud in the Arabian Peninsula and the war has started.

A lot of Muslims around the world wondered why the big Hit that sheikh
bin laden has promised the Americans did not come when America started
the war on Iraq! Many thought that it would be a great timing as the
Americans will get a hit in their home while starting a war and that
will be a major factor in making them loose the war! Well the
mojahideen and sheikh Osama bin laden didn't put their wishes on
saddam and his military because they knew that they would not stand up
and fight at all and that the whole thing would fall so fast. But
their planes and wish's were put on the jehaad that will start in Iraq
after bush declares an end of major combat so that the slaps on bush's
face and on the American feeling of power and victory will be so hard
that they will start to fall and collapse and that's exactly what we
are seeing right now in Iraq the planes are moving exactly the way the
mojahideen wanted!!..Sobhaan alaah

Getting back to the question of the big hit and when do we expect it
and how sheikh Osama bin laden and the mojahideen are pulling the most
excellent string after string.
The situation the Americans are in right now couldn't be worse, they
are loosing daily and their killed numbers are going up and they will
move even up more with time so simply we can say that they have been
drown to the trap of Iraq by god just like they were drown to the trap
of Vietnam to be defeated a shameful defeat as they have never won a
war with their hands ever!

The big hit is surly on the way and the way its going to be done will
turn all the eyes of the world to one place which will make them not
believe what they are seeing and the timing will be so excellent that
America will start collapsing. Its time to cut the head of the snake
and chop it off once and for all sending a strong message to whom ever
will be left from the American people or the American government that
what we said happened, and what we will say will happen too, and what
we say we do.

Get ready for a new Islamic era…alaah akbaar

Alaaaaah akbaar
Daleel_almojahid

1,427 posted on 11/13/2003 10:36:11 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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"Pa. Hepatitis A Outbreak Kills 3rd Victim"
Associated Press via Yahoo ^ | Fri, Nov 14, 2003 | CHARLES SHEEHAN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/14/2003 5:40 PM PST by Calpernia

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "PITTSBURGH - A third person died Friday and nearly 500 others who ate at a Chi-Chi's Mexican restaurant have fallen ill in the biggest known outbreak of hepatitis A in U.S. history, making people so scared they are lining up by the thousands for vaccinations and no longer eating out.

Health investigators are focusing on whether contaminated produce — perhaps scallions — caused the outbreak at the restaurant in the Beaver Valley Mall, about 25 miles northwest of Pittsburgh.

"We're very concerned. It's very serious and we've sent a team of people out there to assist," said David Daigle, a spokesman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites)."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022097/posts
1,465 posted on 11/14/2003 6:14:25 PM PST by Cindy
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"Imam's Video Studied for Osama Footage"
abc ^ | 11/14/03

Posted on 11/14/2003 3:51 PM PST by knak

"Investigators in Turin Study Video on Imam's Computer to See if It Has New Bin Laden Footage"

The Associated Press


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "ROME Nov. 14 — Anti-terrorism police in Turin Friday were studying a video on a Senegalese imam's computer to determine if it might show fresh film of Osama bin Laden.

Turin daily La Stampa said that two computers, cassettes, CD-ROMs and boxes full of documents were seized from the Muslim preacher's home in a Turin suburb Thursday morning.

The anti-terrorist squad declined to talk about the case by phone, but La Stampa quoted investigators as saying they were being cautious about the video because dozens of similar videos have been circulating on the Internet."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022040/posts
1,466 posted on 11/14/2003 6:17:08 PM PST by Cindy
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"CASE CLOSED (Osama-Saddam Link Proved in Intel Cmte Brief)"
Weekly Standard ^ | Nov 14, 2003 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 11/14/2003 5:15 PM PST by RobFromGa

Case Closed
"From the November 24, 2003 issue: The U.S. government's secret memo detailing cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
by Stephen F. Hayes
11/24/2003, Volume 009, Issue 11

 


 
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OSAMA BIN LADEN and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda--perhaps even for Mohamed Atta--according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points--Iraq-al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which in some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022083/posts
1,467 posted on 11/14/2003 6:20:24 PM PST by Cindy
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Been wondering how much quiet time these guys need before they attack. Someone said it gets quiet for awhile. Think they go into meditation and prayer and prepare themselves to face their deaths? I think I would definately need that. I don't have a desire to kill, its hard for me to understand and think the way they do. I deferr to the more militarily minded, while I go make the bed, and be so thankful this pretty sunny Sunday morn. that I have a bed to make. Blessings everyone and have a peaceful and safe day. My prayers to you all and my fellow countrymen.
1,714 posted on 11/23/2003 7:20:06 AM PST by BriarBey
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Well, as long as it's the Dems and the left wing morons that don't believe Al-Qaeda is a threat and and they want us to stop fighting them, and those same left wing idiots overwhelmingly live in NY, DC and LA, then I'm not worried.

1,829 posted on 11/24/2003 11:54:38 PM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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these boys should be careful they not REALLY wake up the people of this country...


1,942 posted on 11/29/2003 6:51:17 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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I knew a guy named Debka when I was a kid working summers in the steel mills near Gary,Indiana.

He was always fighting drunk and stank of polish sausage and pirogi.

I never would have dreamed that someday he would be a major player in the journalism game......

1,985 posted on 12/02/2003 2:21:52 PM PST by tracer
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Nov 3?
How is this breaking news?
2,005 posted on 12/03/2003 11:19:46 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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all Americans have already left LA
2,370 posted on 12/13/2003 12:41:45 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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Let's get...


2,423 posted on 12/15/2003 1:37:54 PM PST by NewLand (economy's up, democrats down, we found Saddam in a hole in the ground...)
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Imminent Threat? U.S. Intelligence Learn of Suicide Bombing Threat to New York City
2,474 posted on 12/19/2003 9:28:52 AM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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New York, Los Angeles, and Washington...whewww...I thought they were going to attack the United States!!!
2,500 posted on 12/19/2003 1:44:59 PM PST by fish hawk (John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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To recite my theory about DEBKA once again,I think it was started by two college roommates, Deb(by) and Ka (thy) who were failing Political Science and looking for a way to create a little excitement.
2,534 posted on 12/20/2003 5:49:14 PM PST by willyboyishere (HE)
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