Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

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Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

Link to Thread 2

[Letitring]

I think I'll start surviving by going to bed. Goodnight all, see you tomorrow. Thanks for all the information and help.

[Calpernia]

Would you like to use one of my profiles to sign in?

[Revel]

No it was written by the person stated. A link to it appears a few posts before. But your post makes no sense. Payroll and sales taxes are collected on a constant basis. The beginning of the year just brings a "Reconsiliation" between what you owe and what you payed out in taxes.

[Luke Skyfreeper]

My first response to this article was to almost crap in my pants.

My second response is skepticism. There are a lot of reasons to believe that such a scheme simply could not be pulled off. Even if the entire USA went down (unlikely, as anyone who has either seen the way we rolled Iraq, or knows Murphy's Law can tell you), we've got nuclear sub commanders who would figure out EXACTLY what the hell was going down. And believe me, one way or the other, there would be SERIOUS, SERIOUS HELL (and I mean HELL) to pay.

Serious to the degree that we're back to MAD, or at least a mini version of it.

Besides which, the global economy is so intertwined now, any major power who attempted a Hitleresque move would be cutting their own throats economically. And the leaders of both China and Russia have fresh on their minds things like the Russian Parliament standoff, Tiennamin Square, and Nicolae Ceausescu.

No, if Russia and China want to gain dominance over the USA (and I've no doubt they'd love that), I believe there are far, far, far less painful and major-risk-laden means to try to do it.

[GOPJ]

The implication of the article was that the US government couldn't operate without constant taxes.

We're in debt now up to our eyeballs so a little more debt wouldn't break the bank. Someone would print more money, sell bonds, issue treasuries etc. Besides, payroll taxes are taken out every week, but companies pass the money along quarterly.

It's akin to a Russian not understanding how an American can go buy Christmas present when they're out of money and in hock to half the town. It's something we call using "credit cards". When I read your post, I felt the person writing it had not lived in an American culture.

But your post makes no sense. Payroll and sales taxes are collected on a constant basis.

[Calpernia]

Common? Absolutely Not!

This is the equivalent of the Christian's second coming.

The Mahdi is THE prophet that would lead the Muslim into the Kaliph.<---meaning eden or paradise. It is Islam's ultimate destiny.

[TomInNJ]

"Net net, I came away from that conversation with a reinforcement of my initial belief that many of those who are "protecting" us are idiots. Guess it's time to build myself a saferoom with concrete walls and NBC filtering, cuz the government SURE isn't going to be of any help if anything (God forbid) DOES happen."

I've been searching the last couple of days for info on whether the government has an obligation to protect it's people. I'm not talking here about the Constitution or the oaths taken by various government officials. I haven't found anything, so I'm of the opinion that Gvt. officials are NOT, under the laws, obligated to the protection of their citizens, only to the continuity of the government, be it federal, state or local.

[Cindy]

re post no. 8906...

More "Mahdi" info at
http://www.taliyah.org
and other islamist web sites.

[KylaStarr]

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[knak]

who wrote this? I've seen it many times today.

[Calpernia]

It has been posted on internet groups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalislamicmedia-

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ALafghan-ALarab-

http://groups.yahoo.com/groupirhab-

[knak]

I know I have read it before on some arab site. Do we know who wrote or released it?

[Calpernia]

I know StillProud2BeFree translated it 100's of posts back for us. I honestly don't remember if there was a 'signer' or 'author'.

[TomInNJ]

"Fallout shelters, do they even exist anymore?"

Lots of them still in NYC.

I used to have one right next to the entrance to my building in Bklyn.

[Revel]

You make some good points. However I would say there is good chance that the communists are involved in this somehow. Maybe not in the grand shceme layed out in the article. But then many of there leaders dreamed about it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013726/posts?page=8875#8875

[Revel]

It will be interesting to see if EOM comes back tommorow between 10am and 10PM.

[Luke Skyfreeper]

You make a good point also. Yes, I know many of the communist leaders dreamed about the downfall of the united states. And I certainly wouldn't put it past some of them to be covertly involved in actions that would attempt to weaken us.

[Oorang]

What do you think of this post?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013726/posts?page=8751#8751

[Cindy]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1055176/posts

"Swiss won't publish list of banned airlines"
swissinfo.org ^


Posted on 01/09/2004 10:19:10 PM PST by chance33_98



"Swiss won't publish list of banned airlines"

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Swiss government says it does not intend to make public a list of airlines prohibited from Swiss airspace, for the time being.

On Thursday, Britain released a list of airlines banned from its skies, despite a European aviation agreement prohibiting the publication of such information.

The transport ministry reiterated on Friday that it would not publish the names of airlines banned for safety concerns, despite pressure from consumer groups.

The statement follows revelations that the passenger jet involved in a deadly crash in Egypt on January 3 was one of 24 aircraft banned from Swiss airspace. The number of banned aircraft has since been corrected to 21."

[Oorang]

Glad to hear you are back liz. Hope you are doing much better.