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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: LikeLight
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I thought you guys would be all over this . . . Don't you remember the bloody hand/map jihadi image LayoutGuru2 posted upstream on this thread the other day?

IT WAS THE FREAKIN' RED SEA!

That image was either a "go signal" or a pre-attack boast in my opinion<<


That's what I've been thinking as well. Plus it's a bit odd that Prime Minister Blair is in the same town in Egypt. Did his meeting happen with Mubarak?
5,861 posted on 01/03/2004 12:22:10 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: Domestic Church
I think your right, the most worrisome:

Niagara Mohawk Power Grid

Three's (BTW all the missing keys)"

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But then there are all these to worry about:

Here

5,862 posted on 01/03/2004 12:22:13 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: Calpernia
Also see the Debka Analysis:

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=758

Too Soon to Dismiss Terror as Cause of Egyptian Air Disaster

DEBKAfile Special Analysis

January 3, 2004, 8:20 PM (GMT+02:00)





Hours after an privately chartered Egyptian airplane crashed in the Red Sea at 04.44 local time on Saturday, January 3, just after takeoff from Sharm el-Sheikh, French Justice Minister Dominique Perben asked prosecutors to open a preliminary inquiry for manslaughter. The justice ministry in Paris said tactfully that the manslaughter inquiry “does not prejudge in any way the causes of the catastrophe,” but provides a legal framework for a joint French-Egyptian investigation.

There were no survivors of the 148 people aboard the plane, 13 of whom were crew and most of the others French tourists with their families, bound for Charles de Gaulle after a refueling stop at Cairo.

The Egyptians claimed that the crash of a Boeing 737, operated by the Egyptian company Flash Airlines, was “absolutely not the result of a terrorist act but is linked to a technical failure of the plane. DEBKAfile’s aviation experts say the investigators will be called upon to consider a host of anomalies and enigmas before they reach any such definite conclusion.

1. Was it a coincidence that the disaster occurred amid the heightened aviation alert that led to the cancellation of seven US-bound flights in the week from Christmas to January 2?

2. Updated intelligence reports have revealed one or more trained al Qaeda pilots penetrating international airlines in the Middle East or Europe and standing by for a chance – or an order - to hijack a passenger airliner.

3. Suggestively, the Egyptian plane vanished abruptly from radar screens before the air crew had a chance to send out a distress call or any other signal. It looked very much as though the craft had plummeted into the sea too suddenly for any warnings; it may even have exploded in midair before dropping into the water. In that case, the cause of the explosion would have to be investigated. An eyewitness said people heard a very loud noise at the time of the crash.

4. The stricken aircraft plunged down very close to the Sinai coast opposite the shore of Saudi Arabia. Yet, several hours after the disaster, no survivors had surfaced – as normally happens when a complete craft plunges into deep water - and no large wing sections or pieces of fuselage, as would normally have been expected - only small pieces of wreckage and tens of body parts. Floating bits of debris and personal possessions were clearly visible from Naama Bay half a mile from the rescue area.

5. The Egyptian assertion of a mechanical fault does not quite accord with the initial response from French transport minister Dominique Busserau who said: “The plane had a problem after take-off and then tried to turn and it was at that minute that it apparently crashed.” However, Egyptian aviation sources say the plane was maintained regularly in Norway and there was no sign of any mechanical fault before its last flight.

6. Another odd feature of the episode is the unusual lack of response from the Saudi, Israeli, Jordanian air forces and the American warships cruising in the Tiran Straits and the Red Sea. In an exceptionally tense time, when all military electronic instruments in the region, including those of the Egyptian air force, are most certainly at peak vigilance for al Qaeda-piloted intruders, the plunging Egyptian airliner must have appeared on all their radar screens from the moment of its take-off. Because of its situation close to Jordan and Israel and opposite the big northern Saudi air base at Tubuk on the Jordanian frontier, Sharm el-Sheik is one of the most sensitive corners in the world. Why has no word come in from anyone around it?

7. The Sharm el-Sheikh air disaster recalls the last Egyptian air disaster in 1999 when EgyptAir’s 990 Boeing 767 crashed opposite the American coast of Massachusetts shortly after takeoff, killing all 217 aboard. At the time, the Egyptian authorities attributed the disaster to unusual atmospheric conditions on the East Coast, a claim never confirmed by US authorities. In a subsequent federal probe, US aviation authorities established that the co-pilot, Jamil Batouty, who was not supposed to be on duty at the time, took over the controls and put the plane into a sharp nosedive shouting Allah is Great! in Arabic.

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reported then that a large group of Egyptian air force officers were aboard, flying home from counter-terror combat and fighter jets courses in the United States. Our sources learned that Batouty has been assigned by his known Egyptian Jihad Islami connections in Los Angels and Cairo to carry out a kamikaze mission to destroy this group.

8. British prime minister Tony Blair was vacationing at the Sharm el-Sheikh resort with his wife and four children. The day of the crash was supposed to be the last day of his end-of-year holiday. From the moment the disaster was reported, no word was released about their whereabouts. If the Air Flash charter tragedy was indeed staged by al Qaeda to coincide with the Blair family’s presence at the Sinai resort, it would be further evidence of the terrorist group’s audacity and intelligence prowess.

5,864 posted on 01/03/2004 12:25:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: JustPiper
" Wish Eyes had given us her flight #

"Star Alliance" and Lufthansa." Either have a flight 730?"

Is she leaving today, didn't sound like it? I would try to switch to another airline.

And, with regard to Lufthansa, no flight 730 and I couldn't find a listing for Star Alliance at all. Will check other flight sites.

5,865 posted on 01/03/2004 12:27:12 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Letitring
This is a map of the Underground Railroad ROUTES, Not Tunnels. But it may help us piece together tunnels.


5,866 posted on 01/03/2004 12:28:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Domestic Church
The point is that it's better to err on the side of caution, which means that one is bound to be wrong and overreact on occasion, but that is far better, than to ignore something and have that be the major disaster one should have paid attention to and averted.

Probability of false alarm is inversely proportional to the probability of detection. If you set the threashold too high, you are right more often, but you may miss a real event. When you set the threshold lower, you are bound to have more false alarms, i.e. be "wrong", but your probability of detection of a real event becomes much higher. This is the mode we need to operate in, because the consequence of one attack getting through can be catastrophic.
5,867 posted on 01/03/2004 12:29:14 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: knak
I know it's a translation for their English site but, the underlined words are the ones that got me to thinking in reference to Yellowstone.

Watch how the volcano will come in being and where it will take place. Tough blasting with terror and scaring voice and floods of an ejected Rockies of a fire.
5,868 posted on 01/03/2004 12:31:06 PM PST by debg
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To: knak
Knak this place makes one think!

And Jeremy is like a guru to some folks

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Is Apparent Registrant of Terror Site a University Professor Connected with Self-Proclaimed al Qaida Operative?

A recent threat on an al Qaeda related web site threatens to destroy New York within 35 days.

According to www.debka.com, an Israeli based internet intelligence digest, the threat made headlines on the front page of Il Giornale, a respected Italian newspaper. However, there appears to have been no American media coverage.

The threat was contained in a video clip featured on a web site allegedly associated with al Qaeda. At the time of writing, the clip was still on line at NOTE:(Page Deleted-1-2-04 www.khayma.com/iraqihell/End US.htm)

According to debka.com, the newspaper reported the video announced al Qaeda plans to destroy New York in a nuclear blast on February 2.

The video clip showed a number of possible scenarios. A bomb or giant fireball from the sky covering New York with a radioactive cloud. A storm of radioactive clouds toppling skyscrapers one by one, along with the Statue of Liberty and Brooklyn Bridge being blown to pieces. An explosion on board a charter aircraft that would cause a radioactive cloud to spread over the city.

The video clip was also accompanied, Debka said the newspaper reported, by large, red-lettered Arabic captions saying: "If God wills it, the end of America is near." The administrative contact for the site is apparently Dr. Sami Shaban, a professor with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) University's Dept. of Medical Education in Al-Ain in the UAE.

A university faculty listing says Shaban is listing "out of faculty." On line information for the site listed Shaban as having a street address in Bowie, MD. Attempts to obtain a telephone number to contact Shaban at the address in Bowie were unsuccessful.

It is important not to discount the possibility that Shaban's site could have conceivably been hacked, a practise that has been routine by members of the al Qaida in the last year or so.

There could conceivably be a link between Shaban and Daleel Almojahid, a self- professed al Qaida operative who for some weeks was broadcasting messages of destruction to America through his Yahoo groups message board.

Recently all of Almojahid's writings, which included a list of demands to the Bush Administration ( fulfilment of which was apparently necessary to prevent future attacks upon America) were pulled from the site and replaced with a link to the video described in this article.

Almojahid was writing from the United Arab Emirates, initially from computers located at the American University at Sharjah. Typically very prolific, Almojahid has been conspicuously silent the last few days and has not responded to requests for comment on any connection between him and the presumed site registrant.

While neither the video or the seriousness of the threat have been assessed , as www.debka.com pointed out, "The report appeared in a newspaper widely viewed as the flagship of Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi. Such reports - even if not authenticated - tend to contribute to the mounting sense of alarm generated by ‘Orange Alert' in America and other Western countries."

5,870 posted on 01/03/2004 12:32:06 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
The fact that Tony Blair was vacationing there makes this much more suspect

I hope you don't mind I borrowed the Rumsfeld favorite for my tagline. I've been looking for one and this seemed to fit the occasion. : )

5,871 posted on 01/03/2004 12:32:23 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: knak; Sean Osborne Lomax
Nice game, Feds you getting this?!
5,872 posted on 01/03/2004 12:33:21 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: Domestic Church
"....backpacks worn on the front with maternity clothes."

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Which could just as easily be backpack nukes...
5,873 posted on 01/03/2004 12:34:35 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: JustPiper; Cindy; FairOpinion; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1050985/posts




Did you guys see this article? Now it's a woman bomber!! I've never seen so many different reasons for these planes being stopped and delayed etc.
5,874 posted on 01/03/2004 12:35:15 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: tubavil
Cannot get a fullscreen
5,875 posted on 01/03/2004 12:35:45 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: crabbie
World-wide Power Outage Planned — 72hr. minimum
time frame developing. . .

Steve,

I've worked in the control room for a large electric utility in Iowa for over 10 years. Up until 9-11 we have never trained for massive outages. However, the company in conjunction with other adjacent companies are simulating what the industry calls BLACK START. This is in anticipation of total electric failure. I believe this is no coincidence.

Frank — Received 10-17-03

Noteworthy Power Outages:

Ruidoso, NM — December 28
San Francisco — December 21
Wales — December 17
Kaua'i — December 15
Ireland — December 6
Cape Code. MA — December 1
Chile — November 7
Bahamas — November 6
Brazil — October 29 - 31
Bangladesh — October 30
UK — October 17
Argentina — October 16
Guam — October 12
Australia — October 9
Czech Republic — October 8
Israeli Power Outage — October 4
Italy / Switzerland — September 28
Sweden / east. Denmark — September 2
Yucatan Peninsula — September 2
England — August 28
Rep. of Georgia — August 19
US / Canada — August 14 - 15

5,877 posted on 01/03/2004 12:38:36 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: tubavil; StillProud2BeFree
Kataeb

===

Do you know what it says?

Looks like someone is tracking those cars -- planning an attack?


5,878 posted on 01/03/2004 12:39:12 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: tubavil
OK your incited and 'that' worries me, what gives tuba?
5,879 posted on 01/03/2004 12:41:23 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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To: tubavil; StillProud2BeFree

???

5,880 posted on 01/03/2004 12:45:08 PM PST by JustPiper (Bush+Ridge=TagTeam for Amnesty! Write-In Tom Tancredo in March!!!)
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