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Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

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Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[Calpernia]

Any ideas if someone can make a volcano erupt?

[oceanview]

toss a virgin in it.

[Calpernia]

seriously. Can something set up volcanos? Devices?

[Letitring]

I read a weird book one time where someone did cause earthquakes to happen. God's hammer, or the Hammer of God. Something like that. It was a huge percussion machine, is how I took it, from the books description.Fiction and a stupid book, imo. I would think nukes along any fault line would produce spectacular results. A bomb inside a volcano wouldn't do too much, seems to me. You would have to somehow heat up a volcano and make it explode, right?

[oceanview]

the forces required in nature to do such things are very great. exactly which volcano would they trigger?

[Calpernia]

I don't know. That stuff is way over my head. I was just playing with words in google....now that the idea is out about belly of the eagle, may mean underground rather than plane.

Then I remembered about the continuous references to Yellowstone. So I was playing with Yellowstone + eagle.

But I don't know anything about what man made devices can do.

[Letitring]

That would take some kind of huge thermal device to heat up a Volcano, I'd guess. I'll look about. Also going to get some good old boys to check out a few caves I used to know about when growing up. :) Also, there are tunnels everywhere in NYC.

[FairOpinion]

Straight from the website of usgs.gov:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/faq/nuclear.html

Q: Can nuclear explosions cause earthquakes?

A: On January 19, 1968, a thermonuclear test, codenamed Faultless, took place in the Central Nevada Supplemental Test Area. The codename turned out to be a poor choice of words because a fresh fault rupture some 1200 meters long was produced. Seismographic records showed that the seismic waves produced by the fault movement were much less energetic than those produced directly by the nuclear explosion.

Analysis of local seismic recordings (within a couple of miles) of nuclear tests at the Nevada Test Site shows that some tectonic stress is released simultaneously with the explosion. Analysis of the seismic wavefield generated by the blast shows the source can be characterized as 70-80 percent dilational (explosive-like) and 20-30 percent deviatoric (earthquake-like). The rock in the vicinity of the thermonuclear device is shattered by the passage of the explosions shock wave. This releases the elastic strain energy that was stored in the rock and adds an earthquake-like component to the seismic wavefield. The possibility of large Nevada Test Site nuclear explosions triggering damaging earthquakes in California was publicly raised in 1969. As a test of this possibility, rate of earthquake occurrence in northern California (magnitude 3.5 and larger) and the known times of the six largest thermonuclear tests (1965-1969) were plotted and it was obvious that no peaks in the seismicity occur at the times of the explosions. This is in agreement with theoretical calculations that transient strain from underground thermonuclear explosions is not sufficiently large to trigger fault rupture at distances beyond a few tens of kilometers from the shot point.

The Indian and Pakastani test sites are approximately 1000 km from the recent Afghanistan earthquake epicenter. The question that has been asked is whether or not the occurrence of these nuclear tests influenced the occurrence of the large earthquake in Afghanistan. The most direct cause-effect relationship is that the passage of the seismic waves, generated by the thermonuclear explosion, through the epicentral region in Afghanistan somehow triggered the earthquake. For example, following the occurrence of the magnitude 7.3 Landers earthquake in southern California on June 28, 1992, the rate of seismicity in several seismically active regions in the western US, as far as 1250 km from the epicenter, abruptly increased coincident with the passage of the earthquake generated seismic wavefield through each site. The abrupt increases in seismicity occurred primarily in regions of geothermal activity and recent volcanism. The mechanism by which this occurred remains unknown. The Afghanistan earthquake occurred at 06:22:28 UT on May 30, 1998 and the thermonuclear test most closely associated in time occurred at 06:55 UT or after the occurrence of the earthquake. The other nuclear tests occurred 2-20 days before the earthquake.

The elastic strains induced in the epicentral region by the passage of the seismic wavefield generated by the largest of the nuclear tests, the May 11 Indian test with an estimated yield of 40 kilotons, is about 100 times smaller than the strains induced by the Earth's semi-diurnal (12 hour) tides that are produced by the gravitational fields of the Moon and the Sun. If small nuclear tests could trigger an earthquake at a distance of 1000 km, equivalent-sized earthquakes, which occur globally at a rate of several per day, would also be expected to trigger earthquakes. No such triggering has been observed. Thus there is no evidence of a causal connection between the nuclear testing and the large earthquake in Afghanistan and it is pure coincidence that they occurred near in time and location.

One last point. The largest underground thermonuclear tests conducted by the US were detonated in Amchitka at the western end of the Aleutian Islands and the largest of these was the 5 megaton codename Cannikin test which occurred on November 6, 1971. Cannikin had a body wave magnitude of 6.9 and it did not trigger any earthquakes in the seismically active Aleutian Islands. Suggested reading: "Nuclear Explosions and Earthquake, the Parted Veil", by Bruce A. Bolt, W. H. Freeman and Co., San Francisco, 1976.

[Calpernia]

Yes. Some are said to connect NY and NJ. I don't know the condition of those though.

[Yaelle]

Cindy, call on me whenever you need French or German translations. Wish I knew Arabic.

[Yaelle]

We have caves, too. I think our undisclosed locations involve tons of bedrock.

[Oorang]

Do you mean the speculation is Hatfill is a terrorist agent, or, a FBI agent? Sorry, my brain is on "slow" tonight. I'm still recovering from keeping an eye on 15 teenagers till 5am on New Years Eve.

[Calpernia]

So, does this have anything to do with the recent headlines of "Earth as a Weapon"?

Do we have any minds on FR tonight that can tell us whether this is possible?

[Letitring]

That sounds encouraging. I don't like the thoughts of ME types messing about with our fault lines.

[Letitring]

LOL. Good. Wish I had one, some days. :) Undisclosed location, that is. :)

[Letitring]

I just keep thinking of that "in the belly of the Eagle" thing.

[texasbluebell]

Oh, sorry, meant one of our govt's agents, in whatever dept.

Not foreign agent.

[Oorang]

I'm no seismologist but I seriously doubt it. I live about 10 miles from the base of a (dormant!) volcano. I lived about 50 miles from St. Helens when she blew (1980). It's a major force of NATURE. I just don't see how anyone could set off a volcanic eruption or a serious earthquake. I firmly believe Mother Nature has the market on those things at this point in time.

[nwctwx]

I posted this last night.

On News/Activism 01/01/2004 7:58:23 PM PST #5,161 of 5,634

It is very strange. Obviously a wise move to pass it on to the authorities, it could be the real deal, or an odd coincedence. If it's coincidence that guy is going to be confused when he checks his weblog ;)

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I guess he was confused when he checked his weblog ;)

[Calpernia]

>>>I firmly believe Mother Nature has the market on those things at this point in time.

I like that idea.