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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^
| 11-3-2003
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Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil
Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator.
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Monday, November 3, 2003
A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.
The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?
The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.
Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.
DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.
Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.
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To: LayoutGuru2
Solar eclipse.

Just happened.
To: swarthyguy
Rama-dama-ding-dong!
1,782
posted on
11/24/2003 4:18:27 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: LayoutGuru2
Increased Threats of Terror Attacks In The United States
24 November 2003-- On 21 November 2003, the Northeast Intelligence Network issued an advisory regarding the increased threat of attacks by terrorists on US soil. On 23 November 2003, over 48 hours after our initial posting, a story appeared on the PRNewswire as well as at least two additional widely read Internet news sites that echoed our analysis about the increased threat on US soil. Within the last 12-24 hours, various media sources picked up information concerning a number of memos and advisories being distributed to US law enforcement agencies about the potential of imminent attacks. Analysts have verified the existence of these memos directly through sources within various government agencies and law enforcement agencies.
Information and intelligence found by analysts strongly suggests an increased risk of an attack or series of simultaneous or consecutive attacks occurring through the end of this week, designed to strike at the busiest time of our shopping and travel season. Such attacks will accomplish multiple objectives, having adverse effects on our economy and travel industry, and striking at "soft targets" increasing the casualty count with minimal investment and effort.
It is important to point out that while some of the sources cited by other intelligence gathering agencies can be considered dubious and the product of repeated rambling communications, we have found more credible evidence through the recent issuance of "Fatwas," "Rulings" and "Clarifications" issued by Islamic clerics having the "religious authority" to make such pronouncements. To those paying attention, a Fatwa preceded the attacks on the US on 9/11.
Although our sources are indeed different from agencies referenced above, the message happens to be the same in this instance, which might have been the source of some confusion when we did not respond to the initial communications. Frankly, we already provided that information, well before the most recent vocalizations. Additionally, the more vocal rants of posters on jihad web sites picked up by other agencies now correspond with the recently issued and re-issued Rulings and Fatwas we have found that clear the way for attacks in the US that will undoubtedly result in the deaths of Muslims as well as non-Muslims. Based on the totality of evidence we have found and analyzed over the last several days (and having their roots in statements found and posted by network analysts several months ago), we submit that the threat of attack within the US borders is real, and the overall threat level is consistent with the weeks and days before the 9/11 attacks.
It is important to avoid making the mistake of believing that should we see the end of Ramadan without any attacks occurring within the US, the threats were nothing but unsubstantiated hype. Indeed, we have stated that Ramadan 1424 is important for a number of reasons that are largely misunderstood by the west, and correctly submitted that the attacks against western interests would sharply increase; they indeed have. But it is equally important to understand that the timetable for attacks, especially on US soil, is fluid and dictated by operational logistics by the terrorists, not by the calendar. If Ramadan 1424 is not the attack window for the terrorists due to operational logistics, it contained all of the necessary eschatological elements to usher in and "legitimize" attacks on US soil that will take place when operatives and assets are ready. The question is, can our intelligence agencies stop these attacks in time?
Douglas J. Hagmann, Director
© 2003, Reprints in their entirety permitted with credit to the author
To: freeperfromnj
>>>>Maybe there were just going to be a lot of kids and teachers out Wednesday and they just didn't feel it was worth opening for a half day.
I've been working the fund raisers all day today. I don't know of any students in either of my kids classes that were planning to be out. I'm not going by the kids, I'm going by the parents. Since the principal just announced this this morning, and all of us parents have been trying to figure it out today....You would think some of us would know of someone planning to be out if the amount was enough to close the school.
1,784
posted on
11/24/2003 4:30:06 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Mossad1967
24 November 2003-- On 21 November 2003, the Northeast Intelligence Network issued an advisory regarding the increased threat of attacks by terrorists on US soil.In other words, they said "a terrorist attack may occur."
Of course it may occur.
On 23 November 2003, over 48 hours after our initial posting, a story appeared on the PRNewswire as well as at least two additional widely read Internet news sites that echoed our analysis about the increased threat on US soil.
Translation: The NINnies sent it to PRNewswire, and the check cleared, plus someone posted it on FR and another web forum.
Self-hyping websites are not any sort of credible analysis...
1,785
posted on
11/24/2003 4:32:02 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
You are free to interpret the post in any manner you wish.
Stay safe. G-d bless!
To: LayoutGuru2
Hassan daleel_almojahid Chop!
To: Mossad1967
You are free to interpret the post in any manner you wish.The Northeast Intelligence Network uses the same techniques that "psychics" use to conduct "cold readings" of a person--make extremely vague statements that sound more specific than they actually are.
It's fraud--nothing more, and nothing less.
1,788
posted on
11/24/2003 4:42:44 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
Like I said. Interpret it in any way you wish!!!!
To: Mossad1967
Like I said. Interpret it in any way you wish!!!!And I'm interpreting it.
If the Northeast Intelligence Network ever starts getting specific, and starts making predictions that can actually be evaluated, I'll start evaluating them.
But I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
1,790
posted on
11/24/2003 4:47:05 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
Thank you for your interpretation!!!! NEXT!!!!
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Diagnostic Criteria
There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
The individual is at least age 18 years.
There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.
The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode
Psychiatric Diagnoses are always a bit of a potpourri. So let's add in a little of this:
(my favorite quote)"Criticizing others is a dangerous thing, not so much because you may make mistakes about them, but because you may be revealing the truth about yourself."
-Judge Harold Medina
Narcissist/Psychopath
Projection:
Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be painful), and to distract and divert attention away from themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this, every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves. This knowledge can be used to perceive the bully's own misdemeanours; for instance, when the allegations are of financial or sexual impropriety, it is likely that the bully has committed these acts; when the bully makes an allegation of abuse (such allegations tend to be vague and non-specific), it is likely to be the bully who has committed the abuse. When the bully makes allegations of, say, "cowardice" or "negative attitude" it is the bully who is a coward or has a negative attitude.
1,792
posted on
11/24/2003 4:53:40 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Calpernia
AQ terrorists have some components of Anti-social Personality Disorder.
However, judgement of such personality disorders requires a common social framework. Commonality between American and Middle-Eastern Islamic Fundamentalist behavior is difficult to identify. Obviously, both groups of people love family and love their children. However, the manifestation of that love varies greatly.
On the other hand, OBL and Saddam Hussein both have narcissistic and psychotic tendencies which are reflected in their inability to appropriately identify "reality".
A psychosis is when a person can not appropriately identify "reality".
A personality disorder is NOT a psychosis. It is a neurosis. Neurotic people still can identify normal reality. In this case, you would be hard pressed to argue that the terrorists aboard the four planes on 9-11-01 were simply "Neurotic". Indeed, these were rampaging psychotics with delusions of grandeur, paranoid feelings, and massive projection of angst.
I would really characterize these terrorists as partly psychotic with paranoid tendencies. In addition, mania is a large component of their mental health problem.
1,793
posted on
11/24/2003 5:48:45 PM PST
by
bonesmccoy
(Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
To: Poohbah; Mossad1967; Calpernia
After reading Daleel's threats for the past 90 days, there does appear to be some semblance of predictability regarding the events in Turkey/Iraq/Saudi Arabia.
People here at FR have been concerned with the conduct of the people creating these vague threats against US interests and Americans.
The DOJ/FBI and NIPC should be running IP analyses and tracert's to figure out this guy's story.
If not, we should be engaging the enemy, identifying who they are, and locating operatives who can interdict.
At this point, the war on terror is a war that has victors and losers.
I am no loser.
If this Daleel ends up being a plant of some kind, we should smoke out the criminals engaging in these threats and get 'em (just like Taliban... imposter Taliban are just as bad... vis a vis Mr. Mohammad with sniper rifle).
Let's try and engage the enemy (Daleel), identify the IP address he's at, and run tracert's on him.
1,794
posted on
11/24/2003 5:53:42 PM PST
by
bonesmccoy
(Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Do you know if anyone has contacted the FBI on this Proof of this Jihad warrior site (Daleel al Mofo).? Wonder if this jihadist sissy is using a library computer?
1,796
posted on
11/24/2003 5:58:29 PM PST
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: bonesmccoy
The DOJ/FBI and NIPC should be running IP analyses and tracert's to figure out this guy's story. I thought it was determined some time ago that he is a student at a university in the mideast (was it in U.A.E? -- I've forgotten).
To: Calpernia
Ours was cancelled as of today. Calpernia what was the reason for the cancellation.
1,798
posted on
11/24/2003 6:04:50 PM PST
by
TexKat
(Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
To: BearWash
thats what i remember too..
1,799
posted on
11/24/2003 6:09:41 PM PST
by
cmsgop
( my cap's key got into a fight with a beer and lost)
To: bonesmccoy
After reading Daleel's threats for the past 90 days, there does appear to be some semblance of predictability regarding the events in Turkey/Iraq/Saudi Arabia.Yes. He posted a lot of threats over a long period of time. Eventually, a threat and a terrorist event happened in close enough proximity that they look related.
People here at FR have been concerned with the conduct of the people creating these vague threats against US interests and Americans.
I'm concerned. But I also understand why al-Qaeda types never got caught prior to 9/11/01. It's summed up in the acronym OPSEC, short for "Operational Security." al-Qaeda doesn't run their mouths in public about an upcoming operation.
The DOJ/FBI and NIPC should be running IP analyses and tracert's to figure out this guy's story.
You can only run IP analyses and tracert's while the connection is active. By the time the guy's posted, it's gone.
If not, we should be engaging the enemy, identifying who they are, and locating operatives who can interdict.
Wow. That sentence is straight out of the adminisphere. Could you describe, in plain English, what you want done, who you want to do it, and why?
At this point, the war on terror is a war that has victors and losers.
Actually, at this point, there isn't a victor or a loser in sight; this war's going to be a long one.
I am no loser.
But you do seem to be easily distracted.
If this Daleel ends up being a plant of some kind, we should smoke out the criminals engaging in these threats and get 'em (just like Taliban... imposter Taliban are just as bad... vis a vis Mr. Mohammad with sniper rifle).
But all you'll be able to get him for is posting vague threats, most of which didn't come in any proximity to an actual event.
Let's try and engage the enemy (Daleel), identify the IP address he's at, and run tracert's on him.
There are probably more important--and remunerative--intelligence targets out there than one lousmouth who cries wolf a bunch of times.
1,800
posted on
11/24/2003 6:09:57 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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