SHOCK Poll: Palestinians Reveal What They REALLY Want From Israel

On The Rosenberg Report, host Joel Rosenberg breaks down the global pressure on Israel to accept a Palestinian state. Rosenberg also unpacks newly released poll data revealing what Palestinians in Gaza and Judea and Samaria really think about a two-state and one-state solution.

Will the world force, successfully force, Israel to accept a Palestinian state when most Israelis, the vast majority of Israelis don't want it? They don't trust a Palestinian state to keep Israelis safe. Certainly not after October 7th.

This is a big question and pressure is mounting from multiple sides, including some you might not expect.

Hi, this is Joel Rosenberg in Jerusalem with a YouTube exclusive for the Rosenberg Report.

I want to look at this question about whether the world's going to be able to successfully force Israel to accept a Palestinian state.

Now, you would have thought, pro-Israel Christians would have thought and and many others would have thought that no, it's impossible in the in the post October 7th environment to imagine that the world would still think that a Palestinian state, a sovereign independent Palestine state with East Jerusalem as its capital and the whole thing would would even be something that the rest of the world would think was a good idea, right?

Because after all, didn't Israel's prime minister in 2005, Ariel Chiron, withdraw all Israeli soldiers and all Israeli civilians out of Gaza uh and and basically turn Gaza into a effectively effectively into a Palestinian state with no Israeli occupation whatsoever, and Palestinians free to build a Palestinian paradise. They had beachfront property. They had natural gas, trillions of cubic feet of natural gas off their coast. industrious uh smart uh people, why not go build a paradise, right?

But that's not what they did. The Palestinian people of Gaza elected Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization, to lead them and they and Gaza has been led into ruin and apocryphal apocalyptic disaster, catastrophe by Hamas.

So that's the experiment with a Palestinian government so far with no Israeli occupation whatsoever. It didn't work. So why would the world push it? Well, it's one of these ideas that just the the world leaders, diplomats, politicians all around the world just think this is the best idea. So in September, as we talked about right, Saudis and the French and the British and a few other [organized] nations came together at the UN and had a big conference about getting ready for a Palestinian state. We're just going to make it happen.

Now, I sort of dismissed that as not that likely at the time because I thought, yeah, that that's still what the world thinks, but the United States is so much against it.

But then I have to say that the Trump peace plan emerged. Now, the Trump peace plan, you know, recently that I heralded, much of it because it got all the live Israeli hostages out of Gaza and got and you know, we're almost at all of the dead Israeli hostages, their bodies almost are all back now as I record this. Only a few more to go. Let's pray that that happens. But in that deal which was just ratified and turned into international law, the 20-point Trump peace plan turned into law, international law, ratified by the UN Security Council just a few days ago, right? In that deal or in that agreement in that plan for peace, what is in there but a pathway to the possibility of a Palestinian state. Now it doesn't say that... the plan doesn't say definitively say that there will be a Palestinian state but that's the premise that all the rest of this effort all these other 18 19 points is going to get ready... the region ready for a Palestinian state and that's why so many nations at the UN security council supported it because President Trump was using the language of, you know, putting a pathway to a Palestinian state right in the language of a UN security council which hasn't been done with US support for quite a while.

So I raised the question again as you know is that where we're heading. Is that going to happen? And the answer is I don't know because I think it's not a good idea. I want Palestinians to have, you know, the freedom to run their own lives, but I don't want them to have the the capacity to pose an existential threat to the nation of Israel. And it's not just Gaza that's been a disaster in Palestinian governance. The West Bank has been a disaster, too. Palestinian Authority is more peaceful and mild, let's say, more moderate in a sense, than Hamas, to be sure. But even Palestinians don't like the government of the Palestinian Authority. 80% in the most recent poll by a Palestinian polling company, the most credible among them, 80% of Palestinians want Mahmud Abbash, the president of the Palestinian Authority, to leave. They want him to resign yesterday, not just today, because they think he's corrupt. They think he's too old. They think he's, you know, creating a corrupt and ineffective government in the West Bank. Now, when you have these two models, corruption and ineffectiveness and genocide and terror, these are the two models of modern Palestinian government, right? And they don't work. I wish they did in the sense that I wish Palestinians had better lives.

But I will tell you how the the corruption of the Palestinian Authority under Abbas has led to a very popular sense that I mean.. meaning that Hamas is the most popular political movement on the West Bank. I want to just give you some numbers from the latest poll just came out at the end of October from this Palestinian polling firm. And I find these numbers interesting and I think you should too. And so my larger point is, yeah, I think it's possible that the world is going to force a Palestinian... a sovereign independent Palestinian state on Israel somehow. I'm not certain about that. I don't see such a state in Bible prophecy.

But I can't rule out the possibility that because so much of the world wants it to happen that it might happen, especially if President Trump pushes Israel to it. Now, he's not doing that yet. But he did put the language of a Palestinian state in his peace plan that got ratified by the UN. And I will add that one of the reasons he doesn't want to shut down the idea of a Palestinian state is because President Trump had supported it in his deal of the century plan that he rolled out in January 2020.

That was very interesting plan which BB Netanyahu mostly embraced because he was pretty sure that Abu Mazan uh aka Mahmud Abbas the Palestinian president the president of the Palestinian Authority BB was sure Netanyahu was sure that Abu Mazin would never go for it. So BB Netanyahu didn't have to worry. he could hug Trump and accept uh the Trump deal of the century plan to create peace in knowing that the Palestinians wouldn't leadership would never accept it. So even though the the Trump plan included an actual independent sovereign Palestine state with East Jerusalem as its capital, demilitarized to be sure with land swaps so that Israel would get a bunch of Judea and Samaria, what the world calls the West Bank, we would be able to keep our settlements that we have built there on biblical the biblical heartland. But in return, the Palestinians would get large swaths of territory in the Negv desert and along the borders of Gaza. That was the plan that Trump offered. So in the end, the Palestinian state would be even larger than this territory that the Palestians oversee today, whether that's the West Bank, Judea and Samaria, or Gaza. That's the Trump plan. So Trump believes in a two-state solution. He doesn't emphasize it much because he knows that is Israelis don't like that and are not just they don't like it they're they're worried that it's we're our lives are going to be endangered by such a state. Evangelical Christians in the United States which are a huge supporter of President Trump overwhelmingly don't like the idea of a sovereign Palestinian state because they worry that October 7th will happen again and again and again. And I I share those concerns. They most evangelicals also uh look at the Bible say, "Look, we we want a good life for Palestinians, right? We're supposed to love our neighbor. That's what Jesus commanded us." But does loving our neighbor mean creating a sovereign state that could endanger the Jewish state? No. We don't think it that that those two things don't have to go together. They don't go together. But um some might say, "Well, didn't Abraham make a deal with Lot, his nephew, when there was all kinds of tension in the land." And Abram says, "Fine, why don't you take the part of the land that you like and I'll take the rest and and we'll call it a day." And what did what did Lot take? He took the the very fertile at that time very fertile productive agricultural epicenter of the Jordan Valley which is today what the world calls the West Bank what we would call Judea and Samaria. So you you there is a model biblically of hey let's make peace you go over there you take that nice part of the land we'll take the rest and we'll call it a day. Uh so there is a case for that biblically. Uh but there's another case in Joel, the book of Joel, the actual biblical book of Joel, not not one of my book, the biblical book of Joel. In chapter 3, in the first few verses, God says through the Hebrew prophet Joel, the ancient Hebrew prophet, God says, "I will judge all the nations that divide my land." Okay? Yeah. Abraham and Lot divided the land, but that's even before the actual establishment of the sovereign state, nation state of Israel, which came during the time of Jacob and beyond uh and Joshua, right? Not during the time of Abraham and Lot. So even if you want to lean just to be friendly uh to the creation of a even a demilitarized Palestinian state, evangelicals struggle with well that's not the right thing to do. It might sound right, but it it but it's not right if God is saying right there in black and white in the Hebrew scriptures that God's going to judge every nation that divides the land of Israel. Well, you you even if it sounds like a good idea, it's not a good idea because God is against it. And we don't want to put ourselves in a position as as Americans, as Israelis, or anyone else in the world, including the Palestinians, to do something that God is expressly against. Now, all this talk, all this talk, even even uh Muhammad bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia at the White House, he talked about I, you know, I support peace with Israel, normalization with Israel, but I need to see a credible path towards a Palestinian state, an independent sovereign Palestinian state. Now, he didn't say it absolutely has to be created by the time he normalizes with Israel, but he did say there has to be a credible path. So that that's all this building international effort even in in the Oval Office side by side with President Trump. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. We just have to find a way to make it happen. Okay. But this is interesting. All right.

Now listen to this. How many Palestinians support a two-state solution? Okay. the latest polling from this very credible Palestinian research organization which is located in the West Bank, 53%, 53% of Palestinians are against the two-state solution. They're against a Palestinian state. Only 44% are for it. So, it's really interesting. It's not like 90% of Palestinians want this or 95% or 99%, not even 80%, not even 70%. Only 44% of Palestinians want a Palestinian state. So why should the world go to so much effort to push to force Israel into a Palestinian state when less than half of Palestinians want it? 53% are against.

Okay. Now, it's interesting because in Gaza, Gazans actually support the idea of a of a two-state solution more. Why? Because they've been under war and the horrors of Hamas and all this, you know. So, they kind of like the idea of a two-state solution. But those who live in the actual territory that the world calls the West Bank, we call Judea and Samaria, how many Palestinians in the West Bank where the heart of this Palestinian state would be, how many of them support a Palestinian state, an independent state? Not that many. 63% are against 63% of Palestinians in the West Bank are against a Palestinian state with these conditions, an independent Palestinian state, a Palestinian state with June 1967 borders, meaning before Israel won the six- day war, an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital that's demilitarized and has these land swaps where okay, Israel will get some of the its settlements fine, but we get a bunch of other territory inside Israel.

The latest survey by this Palestinian polling company finds that 41% of Palestinians support using violence or armed struggle to remove the occupation of Israel from what they call their land. 41% support violence. And that's the highest number of any of the options. How do we end the occupation? How does Palestinians get .. their land back? That's the way the question was framed. And there was, you know, diplomacy and international efforts and, you know, for.., but the high the the highest number, the the plurality of Palestinians support violence to achieve their objectives.

When it comes to the actual Trump plan that was just ratified by the UN Security Council, it is interesting that 59% of people in Gaza support the Trump plan, which you know is a little bit confusing, right? Because on the one hand, they are they are looking things a little bit differently than Palestinians on the West Bank, but they want a two-state solution mostly in the West Bank or in Gaza, right? They want a two-state solution in Gaza these days, and they think that Trump is their champion to get rid of Israel and give them a better life and get rid of Hamas. But only 39% of Palestinians in the West Bank support that the Trump plan.

Overall, if you mix everybody together, there's 47% of Palestinians are for the Trump plan, 49% against.

Now, my last point is this. How many Israelis at this point support a two-state solution? Because the numbers have dropped dramatically.

In 2020, 42% of Israeli Jews supported a two-state solution. That's back when the Trump plan, the road to peace or the the deal of the century plan got rolled out in January 2020. But even then, only 42% of Israeli Jews supported a two-state solution. Along the lines I just shared.

By 2022, before the October 7th invasion, the number had dropped to only 34% of Israeli Jews supporting a two-state solution.

Today, well, today, the most recent polling that I've seen was from late last year, 2024, only 21% of Israeli Jews believe in a two-state solution. And the reason that poll showed very clearly is because 93% of Israeli Jews believe that the Palestinian objective of the basic average Palestinian on the ground is genocide or expulsion. either you know about 63% of Israeli Jews believe that Palestinians want to kill every Jew and the rest of Israeli Jews. Most of the rest believe that at the very minimum Palestinians want to expel the Jewish people from the state of Israel.

So the question is will the world force Israelis to accept a two-state solution? I don't think Israelis are going to accept that. Will the world make it happen? Force it to happen? They seem to be trying. I think that's a mistake on biblical and geopolitical reasons and the fact that Palestinians don't want a two-state solution and neither do Israeli Jews.

Here is the poll: https://pcpsr.org/en/node/1000

Good stuff. The people in Gaza are less pro-Hamas than those in the West Bank.

<< So the question is will the world force Israelis to accept a two-state solution? I don’t think Israelis are going to accept that. Will the world make it happen? Force it to happen? They seem to be trying. >>

They’ve been trying for many decades. Not going to happen. At least not in the Holy Land.

There was an election in Gaza and the residents voted for Hamas to lead them.

Similar “Palestinian” political savvy and sophistication will lead to disaster.

The people in Gaza are less pro-Hamas than those in the West Bank.

Before or AFTER suffering the consequences of their October 7 murder spree?

There’s no such thing as a “palestinian”.

It’s a fiction.

Of course the Palestinians want their land back. They want all of it - as does Israel.

That’s what the war is about.

Two-state solution won’t go away because it is the policy of most American Jewish organizations. Here’s what AIPAC says after two years of internal wranglings:

“America can play a central role in helping create the conditions for a lasting peace—including a negotiated two-state agreement between Israel and the Palestinians.”

https://www.aipac.org/policy-peace

Nobody gives a rat’s ass what Palestinians want. You could give them their every wish, and it still wouldn’t be enough.

Thank you!

Besides, what they want is the complete eradication of Israel. Their terms are unacceptable.

In 2005, Israel pulled out all occupying troops from Gaza. Gaza had had 20 years to develop a functioning state. When I hear all the wailing about humanitarian crises during the war; that Israel is causing mass starvation by blocking foreign aid, etc., does it ever occur to those screeching - why does Gaza NEED foreign aid to feed its people? Israel has similar geographic conditions. It was founded in 1949. By 1969, it was self-sufficient. It built power plants, built desalinization plants to provide water for irrigation and was growing its own food. Yes, Israel received foreign assistance, but the also were forced to fight multiple wars during that time, and Gaza likewise receives foreign aid. So why is Gaza still dependent on outsiders for its basic needs?

We of course know the answer, but I do wonder how the screechers would reply.

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