Code-wala go home!
Tech is a bad field. It did work out OK for me, but I got in decades ago and have now retired.
They can offshore your job.
They can bring foreigners here to take away your job.
Your job can be automated.
Your job can be eliminated by fools upstairs who don’t understand why technology is important.
And technology changes all the time — it’s real work to stay up to speed, and if you don’t, they will bring in a new foreigner who just graduated with the latest skill and who will work cheap.
It’s a pretty foolish career path at this point.
But, from the view of a national economy of a developed nation — you REALLY want your citizens to pursue technology and grow your own economy with your own people and keep all the skills, money, and knowledge right here at home.
The government has to make some serious changes to make technology a good field again.
FIFY.
The H1B program might have had some good ideas in the beginning, but it has far outlived that purpose.
The brain drain long ago reached diminishing returns.
Nowadays Indian visa holders get into positions of management and then only hire other Indians.
They really do act like they think all Americans are stupid.
If you manage to get hired they will do what they can to drive you out of that position.
Put an Indian in charge of a company and the more Indians they’ll import telling US workers to get stuffed
These filthy pagans are all over banking. They get into HR and only hire other filthy pakis and pagans. They don’t bathe, they don’t wash their hands and their food stinks. Canceling T-mobile because they just made one CEO.
“cheap foreign labor”
Do tell, just like reliving my frustration this morning that MS Word STILL doesn’t remember printer settings.
Asshats.
I want my...
I want my...
I want my H 1 B....
Look at them yo-yos.
That’s the way you do it...
I saw the writing on the wall after we fixed the Y2K problem and switched from being a COBOL programmer to being a business analyst. The latter is communication intensive, which is harder for Indians with broken English to tackle. It served me well until I retired four years ago.
However, I dearly loved being a COBL programmer and really hated business analysis. But it paid the bills.
Th H1B visa program should be canceled. It has been misused to the point of destroying STEM for Americans. It reduces opportunities and salaries for Americans. And it strip mines human capital from foreign nations.
My dear son-in-law is caught in this mess. He is one of the smartest men I know, and has put out hundreds of resumes since graduating in 2022. He took a job as a security guard to pay the bills.
One of Mr.GG2’s friends has been out of work for over 5 years due to this carp. He’s A coder and previously made over $200,000 per year. Now he’s blackballed. Being ultra conservative and 100% American isn’t cool.
Why do people act like H-1B is something new...
I’ve been in hi tech since 1988 and watched companies come and go. The constant drive for profit drives the remaining players to reach to cost cutting and offshoring has been their alleged solution for about 30 years and it has mixed results.
As far as going to school for coding, my oldest son who is now 35 was asked if he wanted “to go into computers because thats what your dad does?”
He replied that, no, he didn’t need to do that because if he had a computer question, he’d ask his dad - he wanted to learn to be an electrician.
He said his quidance counselor nearly fainted when he said that, but he had seen many of my friends who were programmers lose their jobs because of offshoring and he didn’t want to live that life too.
I now teach cybersecurity at the middle and high school levels.
I don’t recommend coding, I suggest learning Information Technology and computer/network setups - they can’t offshore that (yet)
Then, maybe cybersecurity, but even that is risky now for the same offshoring reason.
supposedly-American engineering/tech firms hiring (cheaper and obedient) foreign workers (or just exporting the work to Communist China and other Asian paradises)
has been a problem for DECADES.
Irwin Feerst (Long Island, New York) tried to repair the H1B-type damage to American workers. In the 1960-70’s. He ran for president of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) a trade organization long-run, dominated by managers of several large “American” corporations. He wanted IEEE to repeal or reform the foreign labor problem. He came within a relative handful of votes to winning but the Powers that Be got their act together and shut the door on him.
He went to WashingtonDC seeking amendment of the laws but got nowhere (there’s no way an individual engineer or techie can outbid the large corporations when it comes to “lobbying” Congress — that takes some real MONEY $$$$$)
What is fascinating is just how thoroughly his life’s work, indeed his very name, has been expurgated (erased) from history (especially here on the internet). Run a few search engines and see if you can find this engineer and what he did, trying to work “within the system” for its reform —
didn’t work. draw your own conclusions, lessons?
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Eric Blair (”George Orwell”), in his dystopic but alas, very prophetic novel “1984” (which he wrote in 1946-1949 so the “writing has been on the wall” for quite some time already)
Learn to drive a truck. Lotsa near term opportunity
“elected to office on a pro-worker platform”
Trump was elected by a coalition that does not agree on every issue.
Our experience is that with H1b 50% of IT is immigrants, 50% is US citizens.
The alternative is outsourcing where 100% of IT is non-Americans. Those who think there is a 3d alternative are delusional.
That said, the H1b and job market in general does have problems.
1) That many immigrants can work (illegally) under 1 visa is a problem.
2) That many immigrants work as a sub-contractor of a sub-contractor is a problem. Nobody is accountable for anything.
3) That the recruiter role has become dominated by those who cannot speak or understand American version of the English language is a BIG problem.
4) That many H1b are not qualified to be IT workers is a BIG BIG BIG problem. A problem we too often ignore. For example, in all the debate over 2020 GA elections how often is it mentioned the role of Indians in India not only lacking an understanding of US law and custom...but also lacking basic IT skills when the code US/GA election software?
5)Those in the Trump coalition who see a role for some immigrants need to address the real problems and fix the problems.
Make the dot Indians kiss low caste Dalits. “Saar, saar, I not do this.”