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The U.S. Navy’s Great Submarine Shortage
National Security Journal ^ | 9/9/2025 | Andrew Latham

Posted on 09/09/2025 5:11:19 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

The U.S. Navy faces a dangerous shortage of attack submarines, leaving it stretched too thin to meet global demands. While the fleet is already below its 66-boat goal, the reality is worse: about one-third of subs are non-deployable at any time due to massive maintenance backlogs and crew shortages.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: china; navy; russia; spam; submarines; usnavy; whyiloveblogpimps111
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Maybe we are just trying to defend too many places?
1 posted on 09/09/2025 5:11:19 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Is this why the BuildSubmarines.com ads appear regularly behind home plates in MLB games?


2 posted on 09/09/2025 5:15:33 AM PDT by montag813
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To: whyilovetexas111

Takes years to build one. My grandson is an Engineer at Electric Boat.


3 posted on 09/09/2025 5:16:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: whyilovetexas111

Nuc boats are great but heavy on cost and training 50 or so diesel electric boats would augment the nuc sub fleet nicely. Great advancements have been made in battery technology .


4 posted on 09/09/2025 5:17:07 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Also AIP is a thing, on modern diesel-electric boats.


5 posted on 09/09/2025 5:22:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: whyilovetexas111
From 2013: Worker who set fire to USS Miami submarine sentenced to 17 years

https://www.foxnews.com/us/worker-who-set-fire-to-uss-miami-submarine-sentenced-to-17-years

6 posted on 09/09/2025 5:23:02 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: FreedomPoster

Nuc mafia has a choke hold on the USN.


7 posted on 09/09/2025 5:26:17 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Yeah, we should let China and Russia defend more territory.

Again with the negative waves….


8 posted on 09/09/2025 5:27:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: FreedomPoster

Agreed, for costal patrol these boats are silent and lethal. Probably build 50-1 for a nuke


9 posted on 09/09/2025 5:28:47 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: whyilovetexas111
Build more submarines and upgrade the ones we already have.

What's the problem?

10 posted on 09/09/2025 5:33:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (NOTHING enkindles anger, hate, violence, and murderous fury like Truth threatening guarded delusion.)
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:Also AIP is a thing, on modern diesel-electric boats.”

Acute Intermittent Porphyria?

Airport Improvement Program?

Initialism sucks


11 posted on 09/09/2025 5:33:57 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’)
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To: blitz128

The ratio in s 2-3 to one.


12 posted on 09/09/2025 5:41:14 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Atmospherically Independent Propulsion?


13 posted on 09/09/2025 5:48:53 AM PDT by oldskoolwargamer2
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To: central_va

Nuclear power for submarines makes a lot of sense. Power without needing oxygen. In fact it uses that power to split water and make oxygen for the crew!


14 posted on 09/09/2025 5:54:21 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: central_va
Nuc boats are great but heavy on cost and training 50 or so diesel electric boats would augment the nuc sub fleet nicely. Great advancements have been made in battery technology .

I'm not sure that electric subs would be of value to the US--given our geography, we need subs that can get around the world quickly, something that electric boats don't do so well.

Also, we don't really have the manufacturing facilities or infrastructure set up for building D/E subs, so I don't think bringing D/E subs up would do much to bring up our fleet numbers.

15 posted on 09/09/2025 5:55:25 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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That is not the point. WE CAN’T AFFORD AN ALL NUC SUB FLEET. You can build 3 diesel boats for the cost of one Nuc boat. We need a mix.


16 posted on 09/09/2025 5:57:29 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Lou L

I do not think you know what you are talking about.


17 posted on 09/09/2025 5:59:02 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

America has had all nuclear subs for decades. Why is it not affordable any more?


18 posted on 09/09/2025 6:00:20 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Nateman

We are a poorer less capable nation because Free Traitors sold us out. I would say 1/3 Nuc and 2/3 diesel elect.


19 posted on 09/09/2025 6:02:40 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Agree. Smaller crews, a lot cheaper to build, a lot cheaper to run, quieter to operate in attack mode.


20 posted on 09/09/2025 6:15:21 AM PDT by PAR35
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