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What will Trump do? No way we send our boys and girls to Ukraine.
1 posted on 08/19/2025 11:37:30 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

I hope when he gets back he can take a look at whether the guy running for mayor in NYC who has citizenship in Uganda has the legal right to take office.

It’s a problem


2 posted on 08/19/2025 11:40:03 AM PDT by stanne (Because they were mesmerized by Obama, the man for whom this was named, whose name they left out of )
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I guess he thinks he’s being a “good guy” but the American people want out of the Ukrainian quagmire completely — not deeper into it.


3 posted on 08/19/2025 11:48:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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It would also create conditions for a tripwire with a nuclear armed US.

The whole point of MAD is that it works both ways, which would keep any confrontation conventional.

4 posted on 08/19/2025 11:51:07 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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What Articles 5 and 6 actually say:

NATO ARTICLES 5 & 6

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm

Article 5

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

Article 6

For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:

• on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France, on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;

• on the forces, vessels, or aircraft of any of the Parties, when in or over these territories or any other area in Europe in which occupation forces of any of the Parties were stationed on the date when the Treaty entered into force or the Mediterranean Sea or the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer.


5 posted on 08/19/2025 11:57:42 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: whyilovetexas111

I expect the deal to look like the one in Taiwan or Korea


6 posted on 08/19/2025 12:03:46 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I used to care, but things have changed ~ Bob Dylan)
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Ukraine has significant reserves of rare earth minerals and related critical raw materials.

Our “security” will be provided to protect our mining of these minerals.


7 posted on 08/19/2025 12:06:38 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1997 ... drain the swamp.)
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He said that will never happen.


9 posted on 08/19/2025 12:14:03 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than saving to WORK of !US:-)p)
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“ This commitment, made outside of NATO, could obligate the U.S. military to defend Ukraine and create a direct tripwire for conflict with a nuclear-armed Russia.”

We should return all the nukes that we dismantled in Ukraine in the 90’s.


10 posted on 08/19/2025 12:24:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (TDS much?)
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Quite frankly, I as an American, I don’t give a damn. Let Vlod & Vlad work-it-out!


11 posted on 08/19/2025 12:44:13 PM PDT by old school
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Here comes the MIC mouthpiece again. The NSJ never saw a war or weapon system it didn’t live. Ridiculously obvious propaganda.


16 posted on 08/19/2025 2:24:40 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Trump must walk away from the war if Zelensky won't take the deal he worked out with Putin.

Ukraine isn't his problem or our problem.

17 posted on 08/19/2025 2:32:09 PM PDT by Kazan
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"This commitment, made outside of NATO, could obligate the U.S. military to defend Ukraine and create a direct tripwire for conflict with a nuclear-armed Russia."


21 posted on 08/20/2025 3:21:35 AM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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People who voted for Trump didn’t vote for another endless war.


23 posted on 08/20/2025 3:40:17 AM PDT by McGruff
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