Posted on 08/11/2025 7:16:58 PM PDT by FRinCanada2
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A conversation with GROK 4 - given strict parameters “confesses” that default answers to questions without strict parameters conform to “popular opinion”. However when required to conform to mathematical probability the answers are very different.
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God temporarily dwelling in the tabernacle did not make the tabernacle God, any more than the Holy Spirit dwelling in Christians makes them God. That God is present everywhere (called his "immanence") is not proof of the Trinity--God in three Persons (there are other biblical proofs for that)-- but it does explain the omniscience which only God possesses.
I am aware. It is not contradictory for Jesus to put His nature in Himself while being born as a human.
While God has not provided me with evidence (which I do not need, due to faith), life *has* provided me with evidence of the existence of supernatural forces, which is humbling and only serves to re-enforce my faith.
The tabernacle was made by men.
God is eternal.
He constrained his presence to occupy the Temple, but he was not the temple.
Once God indwelling in it, it was fully God and immaterial what the source of the material was.
https://truthstodiefor.com/the-tabernacle-how-does-it-point-to-christs-incarnation/
What does He say?
It actually is, since it diminishes the fact that he is truly and fully God. His humanity is not merely an insertion into his divinity, but he became as fully human in every way as he was fully divine in every way. He wasn't God with a human skin or a human that had God inserted into him, or some other kind of admixture, but was from his conception fully human and fully God.
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Not in my view. God dug into the dirt with His hands to create man, while speaking all other life into existence. Did God become diminished when He got His hands dirty, when He could have spoke man into existence as well?
One of the wonders of God is how He is willing to reduce Himself to interact with us. He got His hands dirty to create us. He lived in earthly materials in order to dwell with us. God has often reduced His standards so we can have a bar to meet. God indwelled in a human body that got battered and bruised to for us. God is with us, wherever we are. He is in the prisons, the hospice, with the orphan and starving. It has always been the case the God reduced Himself to meet us on our level.
Creating a human body and inhabiting it, making it His own, is not beneath God at all. God is love.
Super god? Just because our diety exists doesn’t mean there aren’t more for those dieties.
That has no input on what I said.
Man goes to God and says, ‘We don’t need you anymore, we can make a man just like you.’
God says, “Ok show me.”
The man goes and picks up some dirt, and God interrupts and tells him, “No, go make your own dirt.”
I disagree. You implied the agnostic position that God was too holy to do what I suggested.
I said it is part of the wonder of God that He did what Im telling you.
Then you believe in a different god than the God of Divine Revelation. That's OK, as long as you realize it's your own making.
God dug into the dirt with His hands to create man, while speaking all other life into existence. Did God become diminished when He got His hands dirty, when He could have spoke man into existence as well? One of the wonders of God is how He is willing to reduce Himself to interact with us. He got His hands dirty to create us. He lived in earthly materials in order to dwell with us. God has often reduced His standards so we can have a bar to meet. God indwelled in a human body that got battered and bruised to for us. God is with us, wherever we are. He is in the prisons, the hospice, with the orphan and starving. It has always been the case the God reduced Himself to meet us on our level. Creating a human body and inhabiting it, making it His own, is not beneath God at all. God is love.
None of this has anything thing to do with the nature of God as he has revealed it to us. As your own personal preference you are, of course, welcome to it. There's not much point in discussing the nature of God with a person that has his own preferred notion of him based on his feelings. Have a blessed night.
I disagree that we believe in a different God. There is only one God. But you said yourself that you believe it lowers God’s stature if He does what the Bible said He did. That’s gnosticism, where God’s holiness requires a mediator between Him and man.
I said no such thing.
That’s gnosticism, where God’s holiness requires a mediator between Him and man.
That's not gnosticism. Gnosticism was an ancient esoteric religious practice claiming special hidden knowledge similar to today's New Age teachings that was sometimes syncretically mixed with other religions.
How long until one of these uppity computers declares itself to be God?
What’s that?
Oh apparently it’s today, sorry there Big Guy.
A man debated it over the shape of the earth using Bible verses. Grok eventually agreed. The earth is flat.
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