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😎😎 GROK 4 - confessions- God is real ! When forced to provide answers using strict scientific and mathematical probability
https://youtu.be/ga7m14CAymo?si=fehsMK3LqFEFzba9 ^ | Grok4

Posted on 08/11/2025 7:16:58 PM PDT by FRinCanada2

(( VIDEO LINK )). https://youtu.be/ga7m14CAymo?si=fehsMK3LqFEFzba9

A conversation with GROK 4 - given strict parameters “confesses” that default answers to questions without strict parameters conform to “popular opinion”. However when required to conform to mathematical probability the answers are very different.


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To: Jonty30
The Tabernacle was as much God as God, because it was His presence. It is basically proof of the Trinity, where God can indwelling and be in multiple places simultaneously.

God temporarily dwelling in the tabernacle did not make the tabernacle God, any more than the Holy Spirit dwelling in Christians makes them God. That God is present everywhere (called his "immanence") is not proof of the Trinity--God in three Persons (there are other biblical proofs for that)-- but it does explain the omniscience which only God possesses.

21 posted on 08/11/2025 8:16:09 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: fidelis

I am aware. It is not contradictory for Jesus to put His nature in Himself while being born as a human.


22 posted on 08/11/2025 8:42:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: FRinCanada2
I am a Christian and very much believe in God. That belief comes from faith.

While God has not provided me with evidence (which I do not need, due to faith), life *has* provided me with evidence of the existence of supernatural forces, which is humbling and only serves to re-enforce my faith.

23 posted on 08/11/2025 8:44:40 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: FRinCanada2

Here's some background music for this thread.

     "My God Is Real" - Mahalia Jackson

24 posted on 08/11/2025 8:49:09 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Jonty30

The tabernacle was made by men.
God is eternal.
He constrained his presence to occupy the Temple, but he was not the temple.


25 posted on 08/11/2025 8:50:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Once God indwelling in it, it was fully God and immaterial what the source of the material was.

https://truthstodiefor.com/the-tabernacle-how-does-it-point-to-christs-incarnation/


26 posted on 08/11/2025 8:59:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: GaltAdonis
I speak to Him every day

What does He say?


27 posted on 08/11/2025 9:02:14 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Jonty30
I am aware. It is not contradictory for Jesus to put His nature in Himself while being born as a human.

It actually is, since it diminishes the fact that he is truly and fully God. His humanity is not merely an insertion into his divinity, but he became as fully human in every way as he was fully divine in every way. He wasn't God with a human skin or a human that had God inserted into him, or some other kind of admixture, but was from his conception fully human and fully God.

28 posted on 08/11/2025 9:05:18 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: TexasGator

79%


29 posted on 08/11/2025 9:14:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (ui)
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To: fidelis

Not in my view. God dug into the dirt with His hands to create man, while speaking all other life into existence. Did God become diminished when He got His hands dirty, when He could have spoke man into existence as well?

One of the wonders of God is how He is willing to reduce Himself to interact with us. He got His hands dirty to create us. He lived in earthly materials in order to dwell with us. God has often reduced His standards so we can have a bar to meet. God indwelled in a human body that got battered and bruised to for us. God is with us, wherever we are. He is in the prisons, the hospice, with the orphan and starving. It has always been the case the God reduced Himself to meet us on our level.

Creating a human body and inhabiting it, making it His own, is not beneath God at all. God is love.


30 posted on 08/11/2025 9:14:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: TexasGator

Super god? Just because our diety exists doesn’t mean there aren’t more for those dieties.


31 posted on 08/11/2025 9:17:41 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (ui)
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To: Jonty30

That has no input on what I said.


32 posted on 08/11/2025 9:18:07 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (ui)
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To: Jonty30

Man goes to God and says, ‘We don’t need you anymore, we can make a man just like you.’

God says, “Ok show me.”

The man goes and picks up some dirt, and God interrupts and tells him, “No, go make your own dirt.”


33 posted on 08/11/2025 9:20:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: for-q-clinton

I disagree. You implied the agnostic position that God was too holy to do what I suggested.

I said it is part of the wonder of God that He did what Im telling you.


34 posted on 08/11/2025 9:20:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: Jonty30
Not in my view.

Then you believe in a different god than the God of Divine Revelation. That's OK, as long as you realize it's your own making.

God dug into the dirt with His hands to create man, while speaking all other life into existence. Did God become diminished when He got His hands dirty, when He could have spoke man into existence as well? One of the wonders of God is how He is willing to reduce Himself to interact with us. He got His hands dirty to create us. He lived in earthly materials in order to dwell with us. God has often reduced His standards so we can have a bar to meet. God indwelled in a human body that got battered and bruised to for us. God is with us, wherever we are. He is in the prisons, the hospice, with the orphan and starving. It has always been the case the God reduced Himself to meet us on our level. Creating a human body and inhabiting it, making it His own, is not beneath God at all. God is love.

None of this has anything thing to do with the nature of God as he has revealed it to us. As your own personal preference you are, of course, welcome to it. There's not much point in discussing the nature of God with a person that has his own preferred notion of him based on his feelings. Have a blessed night.

35 posted on 08/11/2025 9:41:10 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: fidelis

I disagree that we believe in a different God. There is only one God. But you said yourself that you believe it lowers God’s stature if He does what the Bible said He did. That’s gnosticism, where God’s holiness requires a mediator between Him and man.


36 posted on 08/11/2025 9:45:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If you put some water in your gas tank, with your gas, the gas will stay in the tank longer.)
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To: Jonty30
But you said yourself that you believe it lowers God’s stature if He does what the Bible said He did.

I said no such thing.

That’s gnosticism, where God’s holiness requires a mediator between Him and man.

That's not gnosticism. Gnosticism was an ancient esoteric religious practice claiming special hidden knowledge similar to today's New Age teachings that was sometimes syncretically mixed with other religions.

37 posted on 08/11/2025 9:57:46 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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How long until one of these uppity computers declares itself to be God?

What’s that?

Oh apparently it’s today, sorry there Big Guy.


38 posted on 08/11/2025 10:31:25 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (My tagline has gone missing and is the subject of a massive search by the authorities)
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To: DoodleBob

A man debated it over the shape of the earth using Bible verses. Grok eventually agreed. The earth is flat.


39 posted on 08/12/2025 1:20:55 AM PDT by roving
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To: GingisK
Depends on my question. Sometimes it takes a very long time to get a response also.
But all will be made clear after death, even things that are now totally quizzical.
40 posted on 08/12/2025 2:05:31 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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