Posted on 06/19/2025 7:12:01 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
Absent the leaders in Beijing acting like they will be the next Golden Horde, America’s fleet of aircraft carriers might have been headed for the mothball fleet, floating museums, or candidates as artificial reefs.
That’s not going to happen. The odds are that the Trump administration will extend the lease on life for carrier-centric fleet operations for another generation. Here is why.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalsecurityjournal.org ...
Hey Civ, how about a peek forward too?
I remember reading that new hypersonic ‘ship killer’ missiles would obsolete the Aircraft Carrier. Years ago.
It's not just "being vulnerable to attack". It's that an aircraft carrier can only be used against enemies with obsolete weapons. Enemies with modern weapons can sink them relatively easily.
Aircraft carriers were extremely vulnerable in WWII. They also helped win the war in the Pacific. But so did land based attack aircraft. The B-25’s armed as gunships under Gen. Kenney did a wonderful job of supporting MacArthur’s campaigns. The important lesson is that what was required was combination using land based aircraft where you could and carriers where you couldn’t.
Your comparing the Russian Navy vs the U.S. Navy?
😂😂😂
I served on two of them and would do so still today
At $13+billion a carrier, the Ford Class is still incomplete and untried. Wouldn’t it make sense to get 5 drone carriers at ecen $2billion per?! I don’t know an actual cost, but in terms of effective use of limited resources, it would seem to be worth considering.
Bottom line, we have GOT to increase our capacity for building subs. I’d suggest we should open another shipyard somewhere in the South. To me its completely understandable why somebody would not want to relocate to Connecticut where most of them are built.
Try somewhere like Jacksonville or Mobile or Pensacola. Then you don’t have to put up with the cold weather, the oppressive leftism, the restrictions on your constitutional right to keep and bear arms, the lack of college football or good barbecue, the high taxes, and having to put with obnoxious Yankees in general. You might find it considerably easier to recruit a workforce willing to live in one of those locations.
*I served on two of them and would do so still today*
Consider yourself lucky.
Fantastic. Love the thoughts. Somewhere along the Gulf of AMERICA.
(Next step in naval evolution: Aircraft Carrier SUBMARINES....................)
The Japs already did that in WW2.
I-400-Class Submarine Aircraft Carriers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine
Japans secret underwater aircraft carriers
https://youtu.be/gxyk84t4Q8w?si=_MnKh_kuoAevqBms
Yes, they had the right idea.
Another idea for us would be an UNDERATER DRONE BASE SUB. Literally thousands of drones could be carried and launched.....................
(Another idea for us would be an UNDERATER DRONE BASE SUB. Literally thousands of drones could be carried and launched...................)
During the mysterious drone invasion of New Jersey last winter it was widely reported that drones were being launched from a possible underwater platform due to witnesses seeing them coming out of the water.
Quite possible..................
I can’t imagine tying my son down here if he wanted to see some of the world. I think that would be a little selfish on my part. Additionally i would worry less about him getting mixed up in something here that would kill him with a few grains or getting shot by a Democrat. Everyone has their own pov I suppose.
Russian navy? Is that an oxymoron?
In the history of Russia, they never had a navy.
Russia had/has some nuke subs, but that is it.
Russia covers 11 time zones, why would they invest money in a navy?
They depend on their nukes for final defense because no one wants to screw with an old KGB agent that has no regard for human life.
My son was a Navy Captain and served aboard a nuke sub for over five years and then a carrier, and a troop mover and then at the Pentagon/CIA.
I was a pill roller with the ground pounders and spent too much time in a mud hole, but I prefer that to any time at sea.
No navy for me.
The biggest mistake any large military makes is, that it is equipping to fight the last war that was fought, not the next one.
Russians are learning that lesson. Robots and Drones.
Guerilla tactics with 21st century technology. are eating them (and the N. Koreans) up
At every single hot spot or crisis that erupts in the world, what is the first thing sent but one of our carrier task forces? Look no further than the current crisis with Iran for example. Two carrier task forces were sent.
Obsolete? I think not.
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