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Israel-Iran War: 3 Things to Watch as the Conflict Unfolds
National Security Journal ^ | 6/17/2025 | Ilan Berman

Posted on 06/17/2025 8:12:25 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111

Over the past several days, all eyes have been on the Middle East. Last week, Israel initiated “Operation Rising Lion,” its unilateral military campaign to roll back Iran’s nuclear program. The effort marks the end of a quarter-century during which Israeli policymakers desperately urged Western governments to take the threat of the Iranian atomic effort more seriously – and to take concrete steps to mitigate it.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; iran; israel; military; mullahloversonfr; multiplenicks; russiantrollfarm; trollfarm
Is Trump going to attack or not?
1 posted on 06/17/2025 8:12:25 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

3 things? Why only 3?


2 posted on 06/17/2025 8:17:46 AM PDT by webheart (Notice how I said all of that without any hyphens, and only complete words. )
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To: whyilovetexas111

3 posted on 06/17/2025 8:22:08 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: whyilovetexas111

Attack is the wrong word to chose.

Trump and the USA will “assist” Israel in destroying the Iranian Nuke weapons factories and missile factories and bomb factories.

And financially destroy all their surrogate Terrorists organizations. (cut off the Cash) Beggar them.


Trump says (Jun 17, 2025) he’s “not too much in the mood” to negotiate with Iran.
“I have no desire to negotiate with Iran. I expect nothing less than their complete surrender”

Trump (Jun 17, 2025): The pace of attacks will not slow down. American intervention? I hope the nuclear program is eliminated long before that.


Israel did request assistance from our special forces who are experts in deep bunker explosive methods. I think that President Trump will authorize that.

President Trump is staging 24 Tanker aircraft planes in Europe and Some of the largest Cargo carrying planes.


4 posted on 06/17/2025 8:22:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Attack is the wrong word to chose.
Trump and the USA will “assist” Israel”

That’s some weapons grade sophistry and obfuscation there!


5 posted on 06/17/2025 8:26:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….)
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To: whyilovetexas111

So, Trumps plan is to have Iran sign an unconditional surrender, on the deck of the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) aircraft carrier, next week. Without putting one American service member in harms way. The greatest military victory in history.


6 posted on 06/17/2025 8:28:01 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: Texas Fossil

I expect the U.S. will engage in a mercy flight type of mission after Iran surrenders. The population will be in a world of hut due to their infrastructure being disassembled. As long as Israel leaves Tehran airport intact so C17s can fly in. Like it or not, you will seek boots on the ground, to keep the peace.


7 posted on 06/17/2025 8:28:14 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: whyilovetexas111

We unfortunately have to fix Jimmys mistake


8 posted on 06/17/2025 8:29:44 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (“I don’t really care, Margaret.”)
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To: jroehl
Perhaps even better:
Trump's plan is to have Iran's new, provisional government sign an unconditional surrender...
9 posted on 06/17/2025 8:36:38 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Can a free society be crushed by human predators? Yes, "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.")
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To: DesertRhino

The only foreign conflict that President Trump handled during his first term was the elimination of ISIS. We lost a very small number of soldiers. The Kurds and their allies lost 11,000 soldiers. Our military greatly respected the Kurds in N. Syria.

Trump is going to Make America Great Again. He will not destroy our nation.

Israel is doing a great job of ending the Terrorists in the Region. I’ve never seen as precise targeting of military leaders as what has happened over the past 2 years.

Many Israeli’s are very intelligent. The smartest of them do not let themselves be wrapped up in HATE. They take advantage of Blind Hate of their enemies.

The Terrorists are brain washed (or surgically removed brains?).

Consumed by Hate, is a fatal error. It leads to Death.


10 posted on 06/17/2025 8:39:06 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: frog in a pot

The US should not ‘get involved’ but we could put the cherry on the top of Israel’s win by dropping the bunker buster on the dug-in site. Do it for the world to see.

Fire the entire officer corps and replace them with senior enlisted.
Identify the ‘culture police’ and incarcerate them all.


11 posted on 06/17/2025 8:41:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: whyilovetexas111

Israel concluded that Iran’s nuclear program had become an imminent and existential threat to its existence. Their leaders concluded they had no choice but to use their resources ( primarily air power and Mossad) to destroy it. Despite some well publicized initial success, it has become apparent that Israel alone cannot achieve a complete strategic victory. The nuclear facilities have been damaged but not totally destroyed. Nor have they been able to effectuate a common uprising and regime change. Eventually an angry, Islamic regime will rebuild them and carefully pursue nuclear weapons.

The next five days will be critical for Israel. There will be enormous pressure on Trump to join the offensive fight.Trump knows most Americans and the core of his base do not want a war. He also knows that compared to 9/11/2001 there are now 3x as many Muslims living unassilimated in the US. Some will be maddingly infuriated if another Muslim nation, for whatever reason, is defeated and humiliated.

Much is at stake.


12 posted on 06/17/2025 8:44:24 AM PDT by allendale
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To: DownInFlames

Excluding the Mullahs who exist only to spew Hate, many Iranians (Persians) are intelligent. Many left Iran, many despise being called Iranians. They will say they are Persians.

There is a difference in culture.

I suspect many successful Persians who left Iran during the rule of the Mullash, will be available to pick up the pieces.

I remember the photo’s of young smiling attractive girls in Iran before the Mullahs. The Shah of Iran was very friendly to the Western Nations.

Last Shah

https://www.thepostil.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/mohammad-reza-shah-pahlavi-1973-768x971.jpg


13 posted on 06/17/2025 8:48:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“We”:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5354932-iran-skies-control-trump/


14 posted on 06/17/2025 9:45:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: allendale

Take out Iran’s electric grid. Take out the stations that pump natural gas and fuels. Take out the pipelines. Take out the facilities that move water. Don’t bomb the cities, just make them miserable places without water, fuel, and electricity.


15 posted on 06/17/2025 10:07:10 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: jroehl
"So, Trumps plan is to have Iran sign an unconditional surrender, on the deck of the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) aircraft carrier, then the signing delegation to be hanged from yardarm that day, not the next week. Without putting one American service member in harms way. The greatest military victory in history.

Edited by me for you. ;-)

16 posted on 06/17/2025 10:07:57 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star! ;-))
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To: kaktuskid

Yup—Iran’s strength as a modern nation is its weakness.

The population has become used to the modern conveniences—and will have very low tolerance if they are no longer available.


17 posted on 06/17/2025 10:10:12 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: 9YearLurker

From your link:

“An attack would require the involvement of the U.S. because B-2 bombers dropping bunker-busting bombs are **the only way** to destroy the capabilities of a plant hidden deep in an Iranian mountain.”

**the only way**

WRONG!

There are other options.

Ventilator injection. Boots on ground with directive explosion at entrance to mountain. Or, pump in lots of propane into ventilation shaft and spark it.

The Hill, listens to the wrong people.


18 posted on 06/17/2025 10:51:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I don’t think we actually know what works until it is tried.


19 posted on 06/17/2025 11:46:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Texas Fossil

Israel can drop a BLU 109 penetrator from their F-15s. It might take a few more sorties than if we did it, but it should be doable.


20 posted on 06/17/2025 12:51:13 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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