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Conservatives Imperil G.O.P. Megabill That Would Fulfill Trump’s Agenda
New York Times ^ | May 16, 2025 | Catie Edmonson

Posted on 05/16/2025 9:26:17 AM PDT by Miami Rebel

Conservatives on the House Budget Committee on Friday blocked their party’s megabill from reaching the floor, citing concerns that the legislation to fulfill President Trump’s domestic agenda would add too much to the deficit.

It was a remarkable revolt that threatened to upend the party’s drive to push the legislation through the House before Memorial Day, and sent Republican leaders scrambling to try to put down the uprising.

Five Republicans — Representatives Chip Roy of Texas, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma, Andrew Clyde of Georgia, and Lloyd Smucker of Pennsylvania — joined Democrats in voting against the legislation. The vote was 16 to 21.

“This bill falls profoundly short; it does not do what we say it does with respect to deficits,” Mr. Roy said. “Deficits will go up in the first half of the 10 year budget window, and we all know it’s true, and we shouldn’t do that. We shouldn’t say that we’re doing something we’re not doing.”

The bill would make Mr. Trump’s 2017 tax cuts permanent and eliminate taxes on tips and overtime pay through 2028, fulfilling a campaign pledge. Cuts to Medicaid, food stamps and subsidies for clean energy would partly offset the roughly $3.8 trillion cost of those tax measures over 10 years, as well as increased spending on the military and immigration enforcement.

But the conservatives are demanding changes to the bill, arguing that their leaders did not go far enough to cut federal spending. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group that calls for lower deficits, estimated that the bill would add roughly $3.3 trillion to the deficit over the next decade.

Chief among their frustrations are that a measure imposing work requirements on childless Medicaid recipients without disabilities would not kick in until 2029.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 05/16/2025 9:26:17 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

So NOW they care about the deficit.


2 posted on 05/16/2025 9:29:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Miami Rebel

This was predicted.

Mike Johnson postponed this vote this week. If anyone is/was paying attention, we knew this was gonna happen.

If it goes to the Senate - will it make it out of there?


3 posted on 05/16/2025 9:31:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Nobody elected Elon Musk? Well nobody elected the Deep State either.)
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To: Miami Rebel

The article is behind a paywall, but are they not voting for it because it costs too much, or because there aren’t enough restrictions on government or because it doesn’t move things along fast enough?


4 posted on 05/16/2025 9:31:38 AM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: Miami Rebel

I’m not clear on how many of the DOGE cuts have been included in the budget (or excluded...)

I haven’t heard if any of the useless agencies that were identified have been officially defended by congress in this budget...


5 posted on 05/16/2025 9:33:17 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

er... “defunded”...


6 posted on 05/16/2025 9:34:20 AM PDT by marron
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To: Miami Rebel

If the Chip Gang get what they want, the bill will be DOA in the Senate. If they don’t, it will be DOA in the House.

Nancy Pelosi was every nasty thing she was called and more, but she kept the herd in line the only way that works in DC, which is the intimidation folder. It will never happen with us.


7 posted on 05/16/2025 9:35:16 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Miami Rebel

Cuts to Medicaid, food stamps and subsidies for clean energy would partly offset the roughly $3.8 trillion cost of those tax measures over 10 years, as well as increased spending on the military and immigration enforcement.

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3.8 Trillion? Is the Times being kind? Estimates of Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill has had deficit increases of at least 5 trillion.


8 posted on 05/16/2025 9:37:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Nobody elected Elon Musk? Well nobody elected the Deep State either.)
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To: Miami Rebel

Sometimes I really believe that the JACKASS should be the GOP mascot.


9 posted on 05/16/2025 9:43:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Now that the RATS and their miggy imports own the judiciary, where do Americans go to seek justice?)
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To: Mathews

It costs too much.


10 posted on 05/16/2025 9:44:41 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

“Conservatives”?


11 posted on 05/16/2025 9:44:54 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“3.8 Trillion? Is the Times being kind? Estimates of Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill has had deficit increases of at least 5 trillion.”

Spend more to save money... Completely Illogical and irrational... There is some stuff we don’t see in this. And Trump didn’t put it there. Lobbyists to the house did.


12 posted on 05/16/2025 9:47:32 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Miami Rebel

Baffling. Conservatives upset that Conservatives want to be Conservative. This whole “You have to spend money to save money!” concept is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.


13 posted on 05/16/2025 9:52:11 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Miami Rebel; All

Serious question: Is there a reason we keep sticking with these huge omnibus bills? Why can’t we do a 1 page bill that says “2017 tax cuts are permanent.”. Another 1 pager that says “no tax on tips or SS”. Etc. It seems like these would be MUCH easier to pass, or at least get their votes on record...


14 posted on 05/16/2025 9:55:45 AM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: Openurmind

You can’t trust anything the media or CBO says. They ALWAYS lie and are mostly wrong.
The increased revenue generated by a stimulus in economic activity will more than make up for what they are claiming is the deficit.


15 posted on 05/16/2025 9:58:31 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: dfwgator

papa is coming back to town today, and will set things straight next week.


16 posted on 05/16/2025 9:59:23 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: Mathews
They are not voting for it because they are in alliance with the Democrats. It is all an elaborate dance move to distract the voters.

The "compromise" bills that will be offered will no doubt have a number of immediate and substantial grift for select Democrat supporters and a worthless promise of "Trillion-dollar savings (over a ten-year period) which will never be implemented. A couple of lucky Republican Congressmen will get a few scraps from the table.

We have seen this dance move before.

17 posted on 05/16/2025 10:01:21 AM PDT by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time...)
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To: Miami Rebel

If it gives a win to President Trump, it’ll never pass. Deep state is firmly in control of DC.


18 posted on 05/16/2025 10:02:40 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Miami Rebel
I think I see the problem:

RINOs

Five Republicans — Representatives Chip Roy of Texas, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Josh Brecheen of Oklahoma, Andrew Clyde of Georgia, and Lloyd Smucker of Pennsylvania — joined Democrats
19 posted on 05/16/2025 10:05:27 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: rktman
“Conservatives”?

RINOs, they vote with Democrats.
20 posted on 05/16/2025 10:06:14 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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