Posted on 05/02/2025 9:46:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Reality is absolutely downstream from fiction. Did the creators of South Park predict the future in their 1999 comedy film? I think we’re all suddenly realizing that prognostication is easy – Simply imagine the most absurd scenario possible and eventually it’s going to come true because we’re living in clown world.
A war between Canada and the US opening up a portal to hell might be a bit of a stretch, but recent events lead me to believe that there are very real ingredients coming together that could trigger an active conflict with our neighbors to the north. Furthermore, these factors do NOT necessarily revolve around the trade war; the trade war is secondary.
There is something explosive going on under the surface of US/Canada relations and it could very well end with a US invasion to the north.
Most conservatives have viewed Trump’s rhetoric on Canada becoming the 51st state as a joke or a troll. At least, initially. Trump himself said it was a joke in the beginning, but now he thinks it might be a good idea. For today, lets imagine that this is a real agenda for the Trump Administration and consider the pros and cons.
1) Trump looks like an “empire builder” which is widely considered poor form in the 21st Century. Most conservatives prefer that America stick to the American sphere and deal with American problems first before trying to change the geopolitical landscape.
2) An annexation of Canada would mean welcoming millions of Canadian leftists into the US as voting citizens. Who knows how this would affect the election demographics. It’s better to leave Canada as a steam valve so that leftist LEAVE the US and live there instead. America has been suffering under the weight of increasing progressive control, and now that we are finally turning the tide we don’t want to screw it up by importing a bunch of socialists from across the border.
3) On the global stage, the leftist establishment will claim that any US expansion is proof of a rising “fascist regime”. Not that most Americans really care what the rest of the world thinks, but we do still have to engage in diplomacy and alliances and trade to a point. The more the fascism narrative grows the harder it will be to engage with other countries on civil terms, fair or not fair.
1) The US already pays for Canada’s defense anyway. Their proximity to us keeps them safe from invasion. Their defense budget is a tiny $27 billion, compared to America’s $997 billion. Their military is minuscule, with 63,000 active members and 22,000 reserve compared to America’s 2.86 million active duty troops and nearly 800,000 in reserve.
Canada has never needed an army because the US is their daddy. If Canada was annexed, the billions expended to keep the country safe would make more sense in our modern post-cold war era.
2) Though there is a risk of bringing millions of leftists into US citizenship if Canada became the 51st state, there is also a good chance most of those people would leave the country and move overseas. Frankly, the less leftists reside in North America, the better off we all will be, and taking Canada might run them all off to another part of the world.
3) Bringing Canada into the fold would make tariffs unnecessary, allow for more efficient resource development and help dig Canada out of the desperate economic slump they are currently trapped in. But an even more important factor is keeping Canada out of the hands of the globalists within the European Union, who have been courting the nation for years and seeking far closer political ties. In military strategy this is called “area denial”.
This brings us to what I believe is a potential build-up to war between the US and our neighbor. The election of Mark Carney basically seals the deal.
The former central banker is a notorious high ranking member of the World Economic Forum and a devout globalist. He has called for a global digital currency system and supports the cashless society concept. He will no doubt increase tensions with the US on every front from trade to border controls and he WILL get friendly with governments that are hostile to America.
Upon his election win his first act was to attack the US and Trump, hinting at closer connections with the EU, not to mention refusing to negotiate on trade.
The EU issue, I believe, is a hot spark in a hay bale. As I’ve noted in recent articles, the EU is without any doubt going full blown authoritarian because they know they can. The vast majority of Europeans are disarmed making any rebellion much more difficult.
They are locking up political opponents and citizens that speak out. They are instituting a vast online censorship apparatus. They are importing millions of third world migrants that can be used as enforcers to keep the native population in line. They are openly talking about forced military conscription and are courting the idea of war with Russia.
European governments are the enemy of all free people. This can only lead to bloody conflict in the future.
By extension, Mark Carney, head of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020, has deep connections to the European elites and is loyal to the WEF. I would not be surprised if he immediately organizes a campaign for Canada to join the EU, or, creates policies which give the EU a geopolitical foothold in North America. The union’s treaty currently requires that a country be a geographical part of Europe before it can join. There are also a number of obstacles for inclusion, but as we have seen with Ukraine, the EU is happy to bend or change the rules if it suits them.
If membership is formed or a defense pact signed, the EU’s ongoing plan to create a “European Army” would then extend to Canada and put the US and Canada/Europe in a framework for escalation. Canada is working on such a defense deal with the EU right now.
It’s important to understand that this war would start out as economic and quickly become ideological. The progressives believe that populist, nationalist and conservative movements are a “threat to democracy” (which means they are a threat to the globalist order). They view American conservatives as the last obstacle to their “Great Reset” (an agenda which Carney avidly supports) and they will do everything in their power to remove that obstacle.
Carney WILL invite the EU to take a more active role in Canadian affairs and seek out their “protection”, economically as well as strategically. This would only exacerbate the diplomatic situation with the US and invite an American invasion.
The tariffs will become perpetual under Carney because it’s unlikely he will seek honest negotiations. Rather, he will seek to provoke. Around 76% of Canada’s exports are sold to the US and there is no realistic replacement for this market. Canada does not have the means to ship their goods overseas without raising prices exponentially. They would lose their competitive trade advantage. Around 30% of Canada’s GDP relies on export sales. Canada’s economy will be destroyed by long term tariffs.
This will inevitably lead to extra-economic retaliation; meaning, Canada will seek a means to hurt the US beyond reciprocal tariffs because tariffs will not help them. They will try to cut off oil exports to the US even though they have no alternative buyers. They will cut off the hydropower that they sell to states like New York, Minnesota and Michigan. They will try to interfere with US shipping lanes that cross into Canadian controlled waters (Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Seaway).
Again, this would elicit a war response from the US and victory would be swift. The existing Canadian government would have zero chance of staying in power.
For those that think a conflict with Canada sounds ridiculous, I would remind them that times are changing rapidly. What you might think of as the status quo for geopolitics today is over. As globalism breaks apart we are entering the wild west, so saddle up and sack up. There’s no room for normalcy bias anymore.
I predict that within the next two years there will be serious talk of portions of Canada (like Alberta) seceding over to the US as Carney crushes citizens with carbon taxation, increased censorship, continued mass immigration and gun bans. The new Primer Minister will make every effort to make Canada as draconian as Europe.
More progressive parts of Canada will pursue EU membership. And, the idea of war will not sound so crazy anymore. In fact, I suspect it will be a common debate around the average American and Canadian dinner table.
Again, with a globalist ghoul like Mark Carney in control of Canada the chances for heightened tensions are immense and unfortunately a large enough percentage of Canadians are gullible enough to follow his lead thinking they can win. Make no mistake, a war with the globalists is brewing and Canada is currently leaning globalist. This might very well mean a conflagration between Americans and Canadians in the near future.
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Americans have been fighting communists forever. No use stopping now.
Snowballs. Twenty paces.
Following the 2024 presidential election, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau traveled to Mar-a-Lago and said if President Trump was to make the Canadian government face reciprocal tariffs, open the USMCA trade agreements to force reciprocity, and/or balance economic relations on non-tariff issues, then Canada would collapse upon itself economically and cease to exist. In essence, in addition to the NATO defense shortfall, Canada cannot survive as a free and independent north American nation, without receiving all the one-way benefits from the U.S. economy.
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No.
Exactly.
Trade war, maybe.
I think Carney was just posing when he was campaigning. My expectation is that conversation is happening beglhjnd closed doors.
The author makes a good point. We don’t want to make Canada a state any more than we want Puerto Rico to become a state, we’ve got enough welfare cases voting themselves more free schit already. A war with Canada would last as long as it would take to mobilize the Des Moines Boy Scout troop after a night of binging on Bobby’s mama’s spiked fruit punch at the camp out.
The EU and now Canada are more of a threat to us than Russia is.
Not as a result of the US’s doing.
And I doubt Canada would be foolish enough to try it, although, with leftists, it’s hard to know the depths to which their stupidity will lead them.
No intelligent person believes that a shooting war will erupt between the U.S. and Canada. Nor any annexations.
Maybe some harsh words. Even a trade war. But no shooting wars. Neither side wants that (despite what some trolls might say).
God works in mysterious ways.
Just like Russia, we now have an EU globalist client state on our border, which may be used as a wedge against the US and its interests, and people are talking about war.
Instead, we could just use the opportunity to "regulate" our northern border.
"54° 40' or Fight!"
Regards,
The only war with Canada is the trade war, which they lost several months ago, when Trudeau came to Mar-a-Lago on bended knee, and more recently, when Canada elected an outspokenly ungrateful and anti-American prime minister.
Trudeau begged President Trump not to use reciprocal tariffs to close a trade loophole - through which Canada imports cheap Chinese products and dumps them in US markets, thereby allowing China to avoid U.S. import tariffs. Trudeau said without that loophole, Canada’s economy would collapse.
President Trump’s response? He suggested Canada become the 51st US state, and he began publicly calling him ‘Governor Trudeau’.
Canada faces a dilemma of its own making:
Over the past decades, Canada chose poorly, trading away any industrial capacity it had, and becoming nothing but a conduit for dumping re-packaged Chinese imports into the U.S. - tariff-free.
Because of this trade triangle, President Trump can’t discipline China without closing this Canadian trade loophole, which will collapse the Canadian economy. This put President Trump in a tough spot - how to put America first without kneecapping our beloved neighbors to the north?
Well, fast forward to last week, when Canada elected an outspokenly ungrateful and anti-American prime minister - largely in response to President Trump’s “51st State” taunts. Now Canada has lost the one card it had left to play - the sympathy of the American people.
President Trump is now free to put America First - with Canada seemingly initiating the ‘break-up’.
Well played, Mr President. Well played.
“....I predict that within the next two years there will be serious talk of portions of Canada (like Alberta) seceding over to the US as Carney crushes citizens with carbon taxation, increased censorship, continued mass immigration and gun bans. The new Primer Minister will make every effort to make Canada as draconian as Europe.....”
You have to understand that in the USA there are more firearms than there are people. In Canada, not so much. There are a lot more people in the USA than Canada. The military of Canada is pathetically small compared to that of the USA.
No. This is idiocy.
Alberta secession. That’s a real possibility.
Quit huffing glue and these garish dreams will stop.
Canada is far too economically and militarily dependent on the U.S. for any of this to be realistic. That said, the ideological drift is real—leftism has hollowed out much of Canada’s political culture.
Leftism is a mental disease and Canada has a full-blown case.
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