Posted on 03/28/2025 5:29:50 PM PDT by Red Badger
If you think President Trump is just goofing around about Greenland or just using it for some sort of negotiation leverage, you would be wrong.
And President Trump
FULL TRANSCRIPT:
We need Greenland, very importantly, for international security. We have to have Greenland.
It’s not a question of “Do you think we can do without it?” We can’t.
If you look at Greenland right now, if you look at the waterways, you have Chinese and Russian ships all over the place.
And we’re not going to be able to do that. We’re not relying on Denmark or anybody else to take care of that situation.
Here’s a longer clip with even stronger language:
Even BioClandestine, who usually has a very strong read on things, is intrigued by the way President Trump is approaching this….
Rare Earth minerals?
Military need?
Trade routes?
All of the above?
What do you think?
Are you on board with President Trump’s aggressive stance on Greenland?
In related news, JD Vance is in Greenland today…
They’re pulling out all the stops and playing to win on this one, trust me:
Vice President JD Vance Calls Out Denmark During Visit To Greenland
Vice President JD Vance called out Denmark during his visit to Greenland on Friday.
Greenland is currently part of the government of Denmark but has "wide-ranging autonomy, which was extended in 2009."
Vance, while speaking to Greenlanders, shared, “Our message to Denmark is very simple. You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland.”
Vance later pitched the idea of Greenland joining the United States and shared, “coming under the United States’ security umbrella than you have been under Denmark’s security umbrella,”
Check out what CNN reported:
Vice President JD Vance on Friday made the highest-profile case to date for American control of Greenland during a controversial visit to the semiautonomous island, which its residents had resisted and its leaders said was unwelcome.
“We want to have good relationships with everybody,” Vance said during a visit to an American military installation high above the Arctic Circle. “But part of having good relations is showing your strength when you have to.”
It was the clearest message yet to Greenlanders who have been watching with anxiety as President Donald Trump vows to acquire their land “one way or another.” Vance, who only decided in the last few days to make the trip, said Denmark had neglected its territory and that America could no longer ignore Russian and Chinese alleged designs on the island.
“Our message to Denmark is very simple,” Vance said. “You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland.”
He repeatedly claimed the island was vulnerable and that the United States had “no other option” than to ramp up its presence there.
Greenland would be better off “coming under the United States’ security umbrella than you have been under Denmark’s security umbrella,” he said, saying it was the “policy of the United States” to see changes to the island’s Danish leadership.
Per BBC:
JD Vance wasted little time before launching into a heavy dressing down of Denmark. As expected, he blasted the Nordic country for what he claimed was decades of neglecting military spending and investment in Greenland’s security architecture. He said Denmark had left the region vulnerable to Russian and Chinese encroachment.
However, he was keen to spell out that the US "argument is not with the people of Greenland, but with the leadership of Denmark".
It was notable that the tone was softer, and Trump’s threats to annex the territory were downplayed, with Vance instead repeating that the United States supported Greenland’s right to self-determination - but that an independent Greenland should partner the United States. One Danish reporter said Vance had used a bit of a "good cop, bad cop" by saying that the US has no problem with the Greenlanders.
Though the speech trashed Denmark, there was a nervousness beforehand that it might have been worse. This wasn’t, at least, an escalation.
And there were no plans for enlarging the American military footprint in terms of troops on the ground or more bases, though he did comment that the US would carry out more investment in more icebreakers and naval ships.
This is a Guest Post from our friends over at WLTReport.
Yeah you are so on it! Let China and Russia have at it! They don’t give a crap about morals! You sure do…at least according to your demented worldview. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.
It’s called forward thinking in terms of protecting our country! Get it?
I agree in principle with everything President Trump says. What I genuinely don’t get is the approach.
USA could’ve pitched this as, the American base isn’t big enough to protect Greenland from Russia / China, but the USA could invest massively in Greenland to the mutual benefit of Greenland, Denmark AND the USA.
Could’ve pitched it as, “everyone’s a winner.”
Instead we have this bullshit where, from the Greenlanders perspective, Trump is proposing they become just another first nation reservation on their own land after ceding it to the USA in return for bugger all... while the new Yank owners get rich.
And from the Danes’ perspective, there’s literally no incentive to say yes.
Trump might be the best hardball negotiator in the world at real estate deals, where competition is fierce and winning needs a battle... but playing hardball in a bloodless negotiation with people who’d be perfectly happy to do a deal if they thought they were getting something better than a pig in a poke seems a bit counterproductive, to put it very mildly.
It’s like - imagine your vacuum cleaner is on its way out, you’re thinking of getting a Kirby, and a Kirby sales dude turns up at an inconvenient time. If he simply offered to do the demo another time and gave you his card, he’d probably have a guaranteed sale.
If the guy pushes his way into your house, uses pressure selling tactics , insults your wife because you refuse to be rushed, kicks your dog, and then threatens to keep coming back until you sign, it’ll get your back up.
Unforced error by the Trump administration. Europe doesn’t see hard sell as a virtue; they think pressure selling is the last resort of a crap salesman.
I don’t think Greenland is needed for anything beyond what we already have there. This and the Canadian crap are the only two things I think Trump needs to abandon.
The people of Greenland might have better ideas of their country. Get it?
Greenland take over by (pick your preference)
1. USA. USA take over by direct purchase; making it a protectorate/commonwealth or; using brute force as last resort.
2. Russia. Russia take over by brute force.
3. China. China take over by trickery, cash loans, bribes, using brute force as last resort.
4. Remain Danish. Number 4’s chance of retaining it is like an ice cube on a sunny summer day.
Last vote I saw reported was 30,000 for the US and 20,000 against
China already has a large mining consortium operating in Greenland (remember what is civilian is also military per Xi’s order).
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We will end up having total control of the waters around Greenland
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Total control of the waters around Greenland only comes if we build a fleet of heavy ice breakers - we currently have one (1) which is on the shop for repairs ... again.
We have 3 conventionally powered ships on order, but they are behind schedule and way way over cost. 1st one is scheduled for sea trials this year or next; the other two are still on paper.
Dept Homeland Security cannot decide if the next two should be armed and if so with what. Their hulls are a compromise so they can travel the open ocean to Antarctica as well; meaning they are not efficient ice breakers.
And importantly, the new US breakers cannot compete with Russia’s nuclear powered fleet - the newer Russian ones can go through 9 feet of ice at continuous speed (meaning they do not have to back down and go forward to break the ice).
Meanwhile, Russia with a fleet of over 100 breakers, continues to churn out dual nuclear powered heavy ice breakers like hot cakes, with China not far behind (but conventionally powered).
Right now, total control favors Russia, followed by China. The US is not even in the game.
we are doing domestically than what China might do if they snuggle up to Greenland.
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China already has “snuggle(d) up to Greenland” - they have a large mining consortium there now.
Best to walk and chew gum at the same time - we can and must learn to do both.
The strangest quote was when Vance was talking about the US taking over Greenland while saying they respect their sovereignty.
So it’s really not unanimous.
unanimous???
Okay so 67% in favor. Unanimous would be in the 80 percentile.
They depend on USA to protect them. Get it?
But that only leaves 33% that need convincing - there is no way that the country can be self-sufficient. It has to have outside support.
The question for those 20,000 is do they prefer Danish, Chinese, Russian rule or American support?
Been doing okay so far.
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